what's the hardest endgame to win?

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withyck11
post any endgame that's not impossible but extremely hard
SacrifycedStoat
Bishop and knight vs nothing
OursonBen

two bishops vs knight?

ThrillerFan

Queen and Pawn endings.

ThrillerFan
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
Bishop and knight vs nothing

B+N vs lone king is easy!

Planet_CHESS0344
ThrillerFan wrote:
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
Bishop and knight vs nothing

B+N vs lone king is easy!

Your either an undercover GM or ur joking, theres nothing in between b+n is impossible (can u teach me pls) (this is a joke, if you know b+n thats impressive)

DallasSacsTheRook

what about harest endgame to draw? That seems harder

DallasSacsTheRook

why did you remvoe me as a friend

frankweebus
DallasSacsTheRook

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SwavZielin
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
Bishop and knight vs nothing

I had the awful experience of drawing against a King, not knowing how the complicated maneuvers to mate

ThrillerFan

How about this one that I failed to win last night over the board? I had 19 minutes left, used 17 and gave in. I had 3 candidates and turns out one actually does win.

So if White goes for the race, whether f-pawn or h-pawn, he promotes first, but Black promotes with check on g1 and draws.

So I thought "What if I threaten g3 a move faster?" Turns out it wins, but I missed the last part of it. The g-pawn can actually be defended.

1.Kxf4! Kc5 2.Kg5! Kd4 3.Kxh4! f4 (otherwise g3 falls), but here I stopped and thought it was drawn, so was trying to find a way out of check without losing the pawn in both the Queen Endings. But no, 4.Kg4! Ke3 5.h4! Kf2 6.Kh3! And White wins.

All 6 moves are only moves - otherwise, it's a draw, which was the result of the game.

Planet_CHESS0344
ThrillerFan wrote:

How about this one that I failed to win last night over the board? I had 19 minutes left, used 17 and gave in. I had 3 candidates and turns out one actually does win.

So if White goes for the race, whether f-pawn or h-pawn, he promotes first, but Black promotes with check on g1 and draws.

So I thought "What if I threaten g3 a move faster?" Turns out it wins, but I missed the last part of it. The g-pawn can actually be defended.

1.Kxf4! Kc5 2.Kg5! Kd4 3.Kxh4! f4 (otherwise g3 falls), but here I stopped and thought it was drawn, so was trying to find a way out of check without losing the pawn in both the Queen Endings. But no, 4.Kg4! Ke3 5.h4! Kf2 6.Kh3! And White wins.

All 6 moves are only moves - otherwise, it's a draw, which was the result of the game.

Wow, nice! Do you have an OTB rating?

MariasWhiteKnight
SwavZielin wrote:
SacrifycedStoat wrote:
Bishop and knight vs nothing

I had the awful experience of drawing against a King, not knowing how the complicated maneuvers to mate

Yeah that endgame is tough.

I dont think its the hardest though; Queen vs Rook for example is even harder.

ThrillerFan
Planet_CHESS0344 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

How about this one that I failed to win last night over the board? I had 19 minutes left, used 17 and gave in. I had 3 candidates and turns out one actually does win.

So if White goes for the race, whether f-pawn or h-pawn, he promotes first, but Black promotes with check on g1 and draws.

So I thought "What if I threaten g3 a move faster?" Turns out it wins, but I missed the last part of it. The g-pawn can actually be defended.

1.Kxf4! Kc5 2.Kg5! Kd4 3.Kxh4! f4 (otherwise g3 falls), but here I stopped and thought it was drawn, so was trying to find a way out of check without losing the pawn in both the Queen Endings. But no, 4.Kg4! Ke3 5.h4! Kf2 6.Kh3! And White wins.

All 6 moves are only moves - otherwise, it's a draw, which was the result of the game.

Wow, nice! Do you have an OTB rating?

Yes - in 2014, it peaked at 2185. Now that I am older, it has fallen back into the 1900s, but I have yet to hit my floor.

newbie4711

The endgame R+P vs B+P (blocked a- (h-) pawns and the bishop can protect its pawn) might be a good candidate for the most difficult endgames.

If the white pawn is further forward it becomes easier.grin

Bombardino_CrocodiIo
3 pawns vs 3 pawns ?
Planet_CHESS0344
ThrillerFan wrote:
Planet_CHESS0344 wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:

How about this one that I failed to win last night over the board? I had 19 minutes left, used 17 and gave in. I had 3 candidates and turns out one actually does win.

So if White goes for the race, whether f-pawn or h-pawn, he promotes first, but Black promotes with check on g1 and draws.

So I thought "What if I threaten g3 a move faster?" Turns out it wins, but I missed the last part of it. The g-pawn can actually be defended.

1.Kxf4! Kc5 2.Kg5! Kd4 3.Kxh4! f4 (otherwise g3 falls), but here I stopped and thought it was drawn, so was trying to find a way out of check without losing the pawn in both the Queen Endings. But no, 4.Kg4! Ke3 5.h4! Kf2 6.Kh3! And White wins.

All 6 moves are only moves - otherwise, it's a draw, which was the result of the game.

Wow, nice! Do you have an OTB rating?

Yes - in 2014, it peaked at 2185. Now that I am older, it has fallen back into the 1900s, but I have yet to hit my floor.

Niceeeee, is that FIDE or USCF? (I assume its USCF)

KristinaO15

I've just started learning endgames, and my main rule so far is not to give up early. 😂 But your analysis makes me want to go deeper into the topic!
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Sebu13
ThrillerFan wrote:

How about this one that I failed to win last night over the board? I had 19 minutes left, used 17 and gave in. I had 3 candidates and turns out one actually does win.

So if White goes for the race, whether f-pawn or h-pawn, he promotes first, but Black promotes with check on g1 and draws.

So I thought "What if I threaten g3 a move faster?" Turns out it wins, but I missed the last part of it. The g-pawn can actually be defended.

1.Kxf4! Kc5 2.Kg5! Kd4 3.Kxh4! f4 (otherwise g3 falls), but here I stopped and thought it was drawn, so was trying to find a way out of check without losing the pawn in both the Queen Endings. But no, 4.Kg4! Ke3 5.h4! Kf2 6.Kh3! And White wins.

All 6 moves are only moves - otherwise, it's a draw, which was the result of the game.

I don't understand. Doesn't the white king just eat all the black pawns in the position you inserted?