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HardmodeIRL

*First I'm not talking about the scholars mate I can handle that*

700-800 elo

When the game opens e4, e5. I usually like to start off by developing and then going for the middle. I'm finding a lot of opponents throwing both their pawns into the middle. If I take they bring the queen out. I know that you're supposed to punish the Queen by putting threats on it but it always gets out of hand and next thing you know I'm losing pieces. What is the name of this opening so I can research a bit better? Should I be taking that pawn in the beginning or reinforcing?

Thank you for the advice

Habanababananero

I do not know which opening you are talking about, but check the game review or the analysis tab after the game. The engine will tell you what you could or should have done.

Habanababananero

What you might be talking about seems to be called the Elephant Gambit, which goes:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d5 and here you can take 3. exd5 and if they take back with their Queen 3... Qxd5 you can play 4. Nc3 attacking the Queen. This should be pretty good for white who is gaining a tempo attacking the Queen and will have a significant lead in development while material is equal.

HardmodeIRL
Habanababananero wrote:

What you might be talking about seems to be called the Elephant Gambit, which goes:

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 d5 and here you can take 3. exd5 and if they take back with their Queen 3... Qxd5 you can play 4. Nc3 attacking the Queen. This should be pretty good for white who is gaining a tempo attacking the Queen and will have a significant lead in development while material is equal.

Yeah this is what I got against thank you very much

magipi
HardmodeIRL wrote:

I'm finding a lot of opponents throwing both their pawns into the middle. If I take they bring the queen out. I know that you're supposed to punish the Queen by putting threats on it but it always gets out of hand and next thing you know I'm losing pieces.

No, no, no. That is just wrong. The firs thing you should do is think about your opponent's threats and defend against them. If there is no threat, jut develop your pieces normally and castle to safety.

Habanababananero
magipi kirjoitti:
HardmodeIRL wrote:

I'm finding a lot of opponents throwing both their pawns into the middle. If I take they bring the queen out. I know that you're supposed to punish the Queen by putting threats on it but it always gets out of hand and next thing you know I'm losing pieces.

No, no, no. That is just wrong. The firs thing you should do is think about your opponent's threats and defend against them. If there is no threat, jut develop your pieces normally and castle to safety.

In the case at hand, one can develop with a threat. 4. Nc3, attacking the Queen while developing a Knight to a good square. This follows very good chess opening principles.

But yes, you are correct about the fact that one should not start blindly attacking the Queen while neglecting development and King safety etc.

Many times it is however, possible to attack the Queen while developing and "develop with threats" is a very good and important principle to follow.

PointlessR

You should be reinforcing your position in openings. Instead of immediately putting both pawns in the middle, place the king's pawn first before opening up your queen's pawn to develop your queen's side bishop. A good game would go like this:

  1. That was the Ruy Lopez/Spanish Opening. It is a good opening, and is the top reccomendation from stockfish(lichess). However, there are lots of variations that black can play, such as the:
  1. Morphy Defense([Black]Pawn a6(attacking bishop),[White]Bishop a4(Removed from the attack)
  2.  the Morphy Defense Caro Variation(Morphy Defense), [Black](Pawn b5 attacking the bishop again), [White] Bishop b3(removed from the attack)

This opening(ruy lopez) is what I play for my games. It usually gains me advantage during the King's Pawn game.

 

PointlessR

Also, if your opponent brings there queen out by pushing both pawns just do this:

They might have there queen out, but you have a lead in development. In that position, black is completely lost(as long as you play right).

HardmodeIRL
PointlessR wrote:

Also, if your opponent brings there queen out by pushing both pawns just do this:

They might have there queen out, but you have a lead in development. In that position, black is completely lost(as long as you play right).

This is exactly what happens! but I always let it get out of hand thank you very much though