First games vs human

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AndyDS1977
Hi all; I’ve been picking up chess again on the chess.com app after a break of about 30 years since I played in school - I’ve worked my way up the free bots and I’m now able to beat Isabel about 1 time in 5-6.

I’m thinking I probably ought to try playing some actual people - is there any advice I should know before I try my luck? I’ve never played under strict time controls (but my bot games are always over in < 20 mins in my lunch break), and I don’t know if there is anything in particular I should be aware of before I try playing people…
MariasWhiteKnight

Well ... the bottom line is really: dont play bots. EVER.

They play completely differently than people and they will give you really bad habits, making you play lazy chess.

Other than that, expect to be slaughtered. I certainly have been.

People are simply far less predictable than bots. Against bots, just build a fortress and you can wait until the bot blunders. Because bots are programmed to blunder.

Doesnt work like that against people.

MariasWhiteKnight
Khnemu_Nehep wrote:

^Worst take ever.
Bots aren't bad.

The power of your argument defeated me.

Except ... you made none. You only said I'm wrong, but not WHY I'm apparently wrong.

Hu !

vd2010g

Playing vs bots is okay to train at basics (like not blundering your queen in first ten moves). But human opponents are stronger and much more fun.

RussBell

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond.....

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

AndyDS1977
Thanks for the initial thoughts,

I guess I’m not so much after just ‘how to get better’ advice, but rather the mechanics of what’s different between bots & humans, is there etiquette I should know, and any basic advice for playing a first time controlled game, like what control to pick - I assume that 30/0 or 15/10 is the usual beginner option.
vd2010g

Time, yes you want higher time. 15-10 feels better for me as if you're nearly out of time, semirandom moves still give you time (just don't blunder anything). Either way, should be enough time to think, just don't focus on it too much.

magipi
MariasWhiteKnight wrote:

Well ... the bottom line is really: dont play bots. EVER.

They play completely differently than people

It is notoriously difficult to tell if a chess game was played by a human or a bot.

"They play completely differently" is nothing more than a myth.

GooseChess

The most important thing in your first real player games is to not hang pieces, and not miss when you opponent hangs a piece. Without developing this skill, all the fun tactical, positional, opening and end game stuff is pretty much irrelevant. You'll need to check every piece of yours and your opponent every move for potentially a 50+ move game. For this reason, I strongly recommend at least 15|10, a full 30 is even better. If this sounds exhausting, don't worry it becomes entirely second nature quickly, but only if you've done it slow and methodical first.

skystalker1

I stopped playing bots as you can't trick them like humans ,no fun . I found 10 min games was a good start point then move onto 5 mins unless you like long games trouble with 10 min games is some losers will not move if losing and you can have a long and dull wait or other players are just so slow I lose interest and start falling asleep and they win from boring me to death .

Mickdonedee

Bots play their move almost immediately giving you no thinking time on their move. Humans give you thinking time on their move, unless you're playing Magnus or Hikaru. Haha.