playing kings gambit as beginner

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imivangalic

King gambit is interesting opening, but problem is that some lines are very testing.

My advice is to play normal opening and later on return to it and see did it work well for you...

patin4
imivangalic schreef:

King gambit is interesting opening, but problem is that some lines are very testing.

My advice is to play normal opening and later on return to it and see did it work well for you...

Why is it a  not a normal opening? Even Fischer played it? You get unusual lines, you can learn as a beginner?

imivangalic
patin4 je napisao/la:
imivangalic schreef:

King gambit is interesting opening, but problem is that some lines are very testing.

My advice is to play normal opening and later on return to it and see did it work well for you...

Why is it a  not a normal opening? Even Fischer played it? You get unusual lines, you can learn as a beginner?

In my opinion to play King Gambit you need to have developed sense for moving peaces and initiative...

That is not easy thing for beginner at start in chess to learn. happy.png

DasBurner
patin4 wrote:

I cant help it, i love it but, is not quite an opening for a beginner? As beginner, i see a lot of weird stuff playing it,  but that is chess, is this an opening for a beginner, i play it all the time, sometimes its going to disaster, but anyways?

what variations give you the most trouble? i can try to describe what to do against them

patin4
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:

I cant help it, i love it but, is not quite an opening for a beginner? As beginner, i see a lot of weird stuff playing it,  but that is chess, is this an opening for a beginner, i play it all the time, sometimes its going to disaster, but anyways?

what variations give you the most trouble? i can try to describe what to do against them

most trouble pawn of black to g5 and my knight on f3. And then pushes the pawn to g4. In case the gambit was accepted, what was my purpose.

DasBurner

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

DasBurner

you can just copy and paste the pgn into a word document and put it back into the engine whenever you want to review ithappy.png just make sure to add your own analysis and lines

DasBurner

if g4, you could also play this

though i prefer sacrificing the knight in the Muzio gambit much more

tygxc

King's Gambit has been played by Bronstein, Spassky, Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen.
It teaches tactical play and thus it is suitable for a beginner.

DasBurner

my analysis is very basic but should give you an idea as to how to continue

patin4
DaBabysSideTing schreef:

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

yes, but the most trouble gives me pawn black to g4

DasBurner
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

yes, but the most trouble gives me pawn black to g4

I analyzed g4 in there, ill give you some more to chew on though

 

patin4
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

yes, but the most trouble gives me pawn black to g4

I analyzed g4 in there, ill give you some more to chew on though

 

thats almost the ultimate sacrifice to offer your knight for a quick attack?

DasBurner
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

yes, but the most trouble gives me pawn black to g4

I analyzed g4 in there, ill give you some more to chew on though

 

thats almost the ultimate sacrifice to offer your knight for a quick attack?

yep, you sacrifice the knight and after the exchange, have a queen, rook, and bishop all aiming at f7. this is the main line where it's a draw

 

DasBurner

but i dont play 7. e5 entering all that, i play 7. d3

patin4
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:

the g5 lines are the most fun for white imo, black has to play very precisely. the nf3 line is extremely tough to crack for white, but nh5 is the only move after e5, otherwise it's basically the Alekhine

yes, but the most trouble gives me pawn black to g4

I analyzed g4 in there, ill give you some more to chew on though

 

thats almost the ultimate sacrifice to offer your knight for a quick attack?

yep, you sacrifice the knight and after the exchange, have a queen, rook, and bishop all aiming at f7. this is the main line where it's a draw

 

 

thanks, maybe, when i am studying this i can take advantage of it, somehow i just like this gambit.

Onlysane1

As a beginner, don't worry about specific openings. Instead, think to yourself, 'what am I trying to do with my pieces?' Are you developing? Are you opening up space for your bishop or queen? Are you threatening an enemy piece? Defending your own piece? Once you get used to making good moves on your own, and knowing why you are making those moves, you will naturally start having good openings, and when you sit down and learn openings, you will, again, understand why those moves are being made, rather than just memorizing letters and numbers.

DasBurner
Onlysane1 wrote:

As a beginner, don't worry about specific openings. Instead, think to yourself, 'what am I trying to do with my pieces?' Are you developing? Are you opening up space for your bishop or queen? Are you threatening an enemy piece? Defending your own piece? Once you get used to making good moves on your own, and knowing why you are making those moves, you will naturally start having good openings, and when you sit down and learn openings, you will, again, understand why those moves are being made, rather than just memorizing letters and numbers.

no one just memorizes theory for no reason. If you're not understanding why the move is made, you're studying the theory wrong. Learning specific openings definitely does matter for beginners. 

jasperbracero

 

BlindThief
tygxc wrote:

King's Gambit has been played by Bronstein, Spassky, Fischer, Kasparov, Carlsen.
It teaches tactical play and thus it is suitable for a beginner.

I’m in agreement, particularly when you can have a computer analyze your games afterwards to identify missed tactics, which you can review, learn, and apply in future games.

 

I think the kings gambit is a good opening for beginners for precisely its tactical play and because many beginners playing as black will not seriously study it to find a path to a middlegame with some breathing room.