patin4 schreef:
DerekDHarvey schreef:
Sorry, I thought this was a Forum to show how dangerous it is for White. A real gambit.
no the question was, is it a suitable opening for white as a beginner?
playing kings gambit as beginner
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Don't do it! Play Italian for two years.
May 24, 2021
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#44
DerekDHarvey schreef:
Don't do it! Play Italian for two years.
ok i must learn dutch :-)
patin4 wrote:
I cant help it, i love it but, is not quite an opening for a beginner? As beginner, i see a lot of weird stuff playing it, but that is chess, is this an opening for a beginner, i play it all the time, sometimes its going to disaster, but anyways?
try the vienna gambit because its very similar to the kings gambit but much more solid
May 24, 2021
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#47
Play whatever you like. If you play the King's Gambit because you want to learn how to conduct an attack go for it. Realize that most of your wins will come because you know the opening better than your opponent. As you get better you will play stronger players who know how to counter this gambit. You can actually learn a lot by seeing how they neutralize your attacking play. As your main weapon against 1.....e5 it has its shortcomings--it's not as sound as other openings.
May 24, 2021
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WayOfTheJoker schreef:
that s what i mean i like to castle otherwise it will be a mess.....
May 25, 2021
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#51
patin4 wrote:
i come to the conclusion, nice to play, but i must learn other openings?
you should learn like two or three openings for both colors. for Black, one defense for e4, one defense for d4, and some sort of pet opening. for white, if you're playing Kings Gambit, i would learn the Vienna game to pair with it
May 25, 2021
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#52
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
i come to the conclusion, nice to play, but i must learn other openings?
you should learn like two or three openings for both colors. for Black, one defense for e4, one defense for d4, and some sort of pet opening. for white, if you're playing Kings Gambit, i would learn the Vienna game to pair with it
yes, you are right, do you know how many of beginners play scandinavian, a lot, also weird opening?
May 25, 2021
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#53
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
i come to the conclusion, nice to play, but i must learn other openings?
you should learn like two or three openings for both colors. for Black, one defense for e4, one defense for d4, and some sort of pet opening. for white, if you're playing Kings Gambit, i would learn the Vienna game to pair with it
yes, you are right, do you know how many of beginners play scandinavian, a lot, also weird opening?
when i see the Scandinavian, I transpose to the Blackmar-Diemer gambit
very aggressive for white, tries to activate all the pieces and go for an attack whilst black struggles to solidify
May 25, 2021
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#54
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
i come to the conclusion, nice to play, but i must learn other openings?
you should learn like two or three openings for both colors. for Black, one defense for e4, one defense for d4, and some sort of pet opening. for white, if you're playing Kings Gambit, i would learn the Vienna game to pair with it
yes, you are right, do you know how many of beginners play scandinavian, a lot, also weird opening?
when i see the Scandinavian, I transpose to the Blackmar-Diemer gambit
very aggressive for white, tries to activate all the pieces and go for an attack whilst black struggles to solidify
ok thanks i always pushes my pawn to e5 als option, you see them thinking>?
May 25, 2021
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#55
WayOfTheJoker schreef:
nice trap. But there are many as well for black and white?
May 25, 2021
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#56
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
DaBabysSideTing schreef:
patin4 wrote:
i come to the conclusion, nice to play, but i must learn other openings?
you should learn like two or three openings for both colors. for Black, one defense for e4, one defense for d4, and some sort of pet opening. for white, if you're playing Kings Gambit, i would learn the Vienna game to pair with it
yes, you are right, do you know how many of beginners play scandinavian, a lot, also weird opening?
when i see the Scandinavian, I transpose to the Blackmar-Diemer gambit
very aggressive for white, tries to activate all the pieces and go for an attack whilst black struggles to solidify
ok thanks i always pushes my pawn to e5 als option, you see them thinking>?
don't push e5 in the scandinavian, it allows black to enter a French-style structure but letting them get their bishop out first. e5 is not good in the scandinavian
May 25, 2021
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#58
pfren schreef:
patin4 έγραψε:
imivangalic schreef:
King gambit is interesting opening, but problem is that some lines are very testing.
My advice is to play normal opening and later on return to it and see did it work well for you...
Why is it a not a normal opening? Even Fischer played it? You get unusual lines, you can learn as a beginner?
RJF played this just 4 times in his whole career (plus a few simul games against weak opponents). And RJF playing this once in a blue moon does not mean that you can do the same, unless you're his reincarnation.
An IM already told you that the King's gambit is far from simple, or intuitive to be learned by a beginner, but it is apparent that you know much better than him.
Anyway, feel free to waste your time whichever way you like.
Yes, i understand what you are trying to say. I reconsider my comment. I am not playing it anymore because of what you are saying, maybe sometimes as surprise. Which opening do you recommend white must study after e4 and e5?
May 26, 2021
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#59
pfren schreef:
patin4 έγραψε:
Which opening do you recommend white must study after e4 and e5?
Oldschool Italian with c2-c3 and d2-d4. When you master that, you can study the more positional d2-d3 Italian lines as well.
ok thanks for the tip, i have not look into italian, i have never played it, only spanisch?
Sorry, I thought this was a Forum to show how dangerous it is for White. A real gambit.