four move mate help please - Chess Forums

MarkofGreatness

Mar 14, 2020

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#1

I need help. When people play against me, they often try the scholars mate. No matter what I do, it results in one of three things: checkmate, loss of material, or significant positional disadvantage. If someone has a defense that works, please share it!!

I often run into the problem below.

[Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
[Date "03/14/2020 09:19PM"]
[White "White (0)"]
[Black "Black (0)"]

1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Qf3 Nc6 4.g4 d6 5.g5

Thank you!!

2Ke21-0

Mar 14, 2020

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#2

MarkofGreatness wrote:

Thank you for your advice, but what happens is 6. Qe6

Not only is that illegal, but is completely stupid if it was legal.

Shewas34

Mar 14, 2020

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#3

Well then there's no immediate threat to your King ?

Fromper

Mar 14, 2020

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#4

3. ... Nc6 is a reasonable developing move, but doesn't address the immediate concern. After 3. Qf3, I'd probably play 3. ... d6 immediately, preparing Bg4 next, and preventing 4. g4.

RinasSam

Mar 14, 2020

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#5

I hope this helps. Sometimes you have to try different kinds of defenses.

llamonade2

Mar 14, 2020

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#6

MarkofGreatness wrote:

I need help. When people play against me, they often try the scholars mate. No matter what I do, it results in one of three things: checkmate, loss of material, or significant positional disadvantage. If someone has a defense that works, please share it!!

I often run into the problem below.

[Site "Chess.com iPhone"]
[Date "03/14/2020 09:19PM"]
[White "White (0)"]
[Black "Black (0)"]

1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.Qf3 Nc6 4.g4 d6 5.g5

Thank you!!

From the moves you gave, what do you think white's idea is with the move 5.g4?

aurophoe

Mar 14, 2020

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#7

To take the pinned knight

But easily stopped with Nd4

llamonade2

Mar 14, 2020

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#8

If he sees the idea is to remove the knight from blocking the attack on f7, then it's time to think of ways to deal with it.

It's incorrect for him to say "no matter what I do"

My point is he should identify the threat, find moves that deal with the threat, and the choose the move that deals with it in a way that he thinks is best.

charley718