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Nobody could be GM in only 6 months.. Unless I'm mistaken, humans are restricted... For their own good.

bumpathesecond

The OP of this thread may have made the single most ignorant post in the history of chess.com forums. That is quite an achievement.

Jenium
BlueScreenRevenge wrote:

I am confused now. Is this guy becoming a GM or not?

Even less likely than Andrea Botez becoming one...

mynameismanucaseu

Hello

62-Polymath
Jenium wrote:

Even less likely than Andrea Botez becoming one...

Know a little about what you're talking about before you publicly post something. For one Andrea Botez is already a woman FIDE master. Will she reach GM before me? Maybe but not likely simply because I'm a male. I'm not racist, prejudice or anything it's just simple stats.

There are 41 women GMs in the world amount over 1600 rated players, probably higher now this is an old number. The highest ranked women I know of is Judit Polgár and I would love to go into some background on here. Maybe on my YT channel one day.

But yea, to be honest, if I was to start rising very quickly in the ranks "just saying" the sky is the limit simply because I'm a male. Chess skill has nothing to do with it, or else if it did there plainly would be more women in the top ranks than they are, so obviously there is some invisible barrier.

magipi
62-Polymath wrote:

Know a little about what you're talking about before you publicly post something.

Good advice. You yourself should have followed it, and you wouldn't be in this predicament. If only you took 10 minutes to google what a chess GM is and how hard it is to reach it...

Well, that ship has sailed.

V_Awful_Chess
62-Polymath wrote:
Jenium wrote:

Even less likely than Andrea Botez becoming one...

Know a little about what you're talking about before you publicly post something. For one Andrea Botez is already a woman FIDE master. Will she reach GM before me? Maybe but not likely simply because I'm a male. I'm not racist, prejudice or anything it's just simple stats.

There are 41 women GMs in the world amount over 1600 rated players, probably higher now this is an old number. The highest ranked women I know of is Judit Polgár and I would love to go into some background on here. Maybe on my YT channel one day.

But yea, to be honest, if I was to start rising very quickly in the ranks "just saying" the sky is the limit simply because I'm a male. Chess skill has nothing to do with it, or else if it did there plainly would be more women in the top ranks than they are, so obviously there is some invisible barrier.

It seems Andrea Botez does not have ambitions to be a GM and you no longer have such ambitions either.

But if you were both trying, going by statistics and assuming the correlations are causal, Andrea would be more likely to get there because she's much younger and has a higher starting Elo. This has a much larger effect than sex does.

Of course, the correlations may not neccesarily be causal (although I would be astonished if starting elo isn't).

62-Polymath
magipi wrote: If only you took 10 minutes to google what a chess GM is and how hard it is to reach it...

Well, that ship has sailed.

I know perfectly well how hard it is and have mentioned this over 200 post ago. I also covered the whole NOT being able to reach GM in 6 months also "and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with skill, being able to, etc. It has to do with not enough rated games to reach GM within 6 months, not even a year, and that's great for making money which is what the people in charge of chess are only out to do. It's the Boeing effect. Make money for the shareholders at ALL cost. Even lives if it needs be and for Boeing it needed to be.

Dude you should probably just stop posting because everyone understands that you don't like me and everyone gets your view of me so it's just narcissism on your part to input your opinions when you're not even in the discussion. Way to put yourself at center and get involved. Yes if it makes you feel better and more important we know you're following the thread and want your opinion to be heard. I mean I am literally that important to take this amount of time in your life. Do you know how many others just made a few negative post, insults, and moved on? A lot, but that's NOT you. You're one of those who lacked attention as a child, or had too much attention as a child "one of the two", and feel you need to input your thoughts into every threat to let everyone know you're still here.

Well glad I can make your day. Soon though I'll be absent again for 4-6 months and you'll have to find some other thread to feel important in. I guess their's not a lot to do in Hungary!

magipi
62-Polymath wrote:
magipi wrote: If only you took 10 minutes to google what a chess GM is and how hard it is to reach it...

Well, that ship has sailed.

I know perfectly well how hard it is and have mentioned this over 200 post ago. I also covered the whole NOT being able to reach GM in 6 months also "and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with skill, being able to, etc. It has to do with not enough rated games to reach GM within 6 months, not even a year,

All that nonsense that you wrote here shows perfectly well that you have no idea how hard it is.

It has everything to do with skill.

The skill required is so extremely above your skill level that it would take 5 or more years of very hard work for an very dedicated, very talented person. Saying that you can do it in one tenth of that time is just extreme ignorance on your part.

Or (more likely) just trolling.

bumpathesecond
62-Polymath wrote:
Jenium wrote:

Even less likely than Andrea Botez becoming one...

Know a little about what you're talking about before you publicly post something. For one Andrea Botez is already a woman FIDE master. Will GM before me? Maybe but not likely simply because I'm a male. I'm not racist, prejudice or anything it's just simple stats.

There are 41 women GMs in the world amount over 1600 rated players, probably higher now this is an old number. The highest ranked women I know of is Judit Polgár and I would love to go into some background on here. Maybe on my YT channel one day.

But yea, to be honest, if I was to start rising very quickly in the ranks "just saying" the sky is the limit simply because I'm a male. Chess skill has nothing to do with it, or else if it did there plainly would be more women in the top ranks than they are, so obviously there is some invisible barrier.

OMG. Can you really be this obtuse? You seriously think you have an advantage in chess over Andrea Botez because you are a male? It isn't self evident to you that the reason women, as a group, tend to perform less well than males is that they tend not to take up the game in as great of numbers as males? You say you are going to live OTB events in Las Vegas. Haven't you noticed what sausage fest live chess events are? You just can't help making a fool of yourself.

Jenium
62-Polymath wrote:
Jenium wrote:

Even less likely than Andrea Botez becoming one...

Know a little about what you're talking about before you publicly post something. For one Andrea Botez is already a woman FIDE master. Will she reach GM before me? Maybe but not likely simply because I'm a male. I'm not racist, prejudice or anything it's just simple stats.

On a positive note: Even if the GM plan doesn't work out, the path to becoming a standup comedian is wide open.

blackmore324
62-Polymath wrote:

But yea, to be honest, if I was to start rising very quickly in the ranks "just saying" the sky is the limit simply because I'm a male. Chess skill has nothing to do with it, or else if it did there plainly would be more women in the top ranks than they are, so obviously there is some invisible barrier.

Hate to break it to you, but being old is far more detrimental to becoming GM than being male or female. Most GMs (including women) started playing chess when they were 3-4 years old while their brains were more malleable. If you think only 41 women GMs is low, try looking up the number of people that became GM after 60 (I would be surprised if you could find more than a handful of examples if any). The only example I could find was Larry Kaufman who became GM at 60 in 2008. However he became IM in 1980, so it took him 28 years to go from IM to GM. If all it took to be GM was memorization then way more people would be GM. It is a shame you don't play more games online, how do you expect to improve? I think if you had crossed over 1000 in 6 months most people here would have been impressed.

magipi
blackmore324 wrote:

try looking up the number of people that became GM after 60 (I would be surprised if you could find more than a handful of examples if any). The only example I could find was Larry Kaufman who became GM at 60 in 2008.

There is such a thing as the World Senior Championship, and the winner gets the GM title. That's the way Kaufman got it. It's more like a "honorary" GM title than a real one.

Of course, it's still impressive by an IM to win that event.

nklristic
62-Polymath wrote:
I know perfectly well how hard it is and have mentioned this over 200 post ago. I also covered the whole NOT being able to reach GM in 6 months also "and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with skill, being able to, etc. It has to do with not enough rated games to reach GM within 6 months, not even a year

With respect, by saying this, you showed everyone that you don't understand how difficult it is. Not even close.

Since 1950. (year when GM title has been introduced) there have been 2055 GM titles awarded. Even if you could play a few games per day, you would never be able to achieve it in 6 months. Best players in the history of chess had to play and study for years to achieve it. None such prodigy is able to even come close to the level of play of a grandmaster in 6 months of playing.

In the first 6 months, prodigies are still pretty weak players, in most cases below even 1 500 FIDE, and it takes them several years to go over 2 000 FIDE level, because it takes a lot of time to learn enough about chess to get there.

Basically you have the same chance to be on a GM level in chess (after 6 months) as being on the same level of let's say physics with physics Phd (after 6 months). On top of it all, to be a Phd, you need to get to the required high level of knowledge in that field, while in order to be a GM in chess you need to annihilate the competition in order to steal enough of their rating points to get to 2 500 rating (not to mention 3 norms that require you to play on even higher level in 3 tournaments).

I am trying to keep this post civil, but you have to understand that you are basically goading people to react the way they are reacting, by talking about the topic you know basically nothing about, and trivializing something that is incredibly difficult to do.

Imagine talking to a world class doctor and saying: "I feel like giving this medicine stuff a chance. I want to study it for a few months to show you how it's done." 
This is basically what you've been saying in this topic.

blackmore324
magipi wrote:
blackmore324 wrote:

try looking up the number of people that became GM after 60 (I would be surprised if you could find more than a handful of examples if any). The only example I could find was Larry Kaufman who became GM at 60 in 2008.

There is such a thing as the World Senior Championship, and the winner gets the GM title. That's the way Kaufman got it. It's more like a "honorary" GM title than a real one.

Of course, it's still impressive by an IM to win that event.

I mean I think it is a nice thing for FIDE to do regardless. Winning an entire tournament filled with GMs (albeit retired ones) is still plenty impressive. I think the worst part of chess is the mountain of crushed dreams. There are so many aspiring youngsters that throw everything they have (including quitting school) into becoming a grand master only to fall short at the very top. Many don't even become titled players. I can't help but feel that there is someone out there that thinks they are a failure because they are only an IM and not a GM, as ridiculous as it sounds, and that makes me sad. This is not to mention that most professional chess players make but a pittance. Chess should have more of these nice small gestures to recognize all the hard work and passion many of their players put into the game (especially for the youngsters and elderly).

MandotheMango1067
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Panther9019
62-Polymath wrote:

magipi, Again, the lazy wokeness shows through. First off "I clearly said 32 not 46 languages", second both me speaking with people ONLINE LIVE and my 14 channels are ALL listeded

I have a question for the genius, how long has it taken you to get to 700 ELO in the English language?