I FINALLY DEFEATED NELSON

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patsyyyy
aijehdjeidjwjsbej I am thrilled :D
I traded queens when I was up a pawn
And I promoted my 2 pawns to 2 queenssss wahahah and mate
anyone tried hard to beat him?
justbefair
patsyyyy wrote:
aijehdjeidjwjsbej I am thrilled :D
I traded queens when I was up a pawn
And I promoted my 2 pawns to 2 queenssss wahahah and mate
anyone tried hard to beat him?

Good going!

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/for-beginners/how-to-beat-nelson-bot

There are at least 100 threads about the Nelson bot.

thymewarp2000
Me too! Yesterday I finally beat Nelson after like 20-30 tries, not in one go, just over the time I’ve been playing, Nelson is so aggressive and the only way to beat him is with blocking his stuff
wornaki

Congrats on beating that bot. Now, if you don't mind me giving you some advice, forget most of what you've learned about how to defeat it. Most of it is useless and sometimes even harmful to your chess development. Nelson like chess induces bad habits, like having to make ridiculous moves just to stave off an ultra aggressive idiotic player. Don't get me wrong, I celebrate that you defeated it, but I seriously suggest you forget it exists from now that on.

Irongine

Nelson is an example of bots work. I believe they need to meet an average centipawn loss over a span of moves. Meaning if they play really good moves, they need to play bad moves to make up for it. If you just hold on tight and develop properly nelson will eventually blunder. Of course, You should also avoid Nelson's belligerent attacks unless you know you can wriggle your way out with a somewhat decent position

psychohist
wornaki wrote:

Now, if you don't mind me giving you some advice, forget most of what you've learned about how to defeat it. Most of it is useless and sometimes even harmful to your chess development.

 Learning to look at the threats the opponent's move makes and defend against them is "useless and sometimes even harmful"?

wornaki
psychohist wrote:
wornaki wrote:

Now, if you don't mind me giving you some advice, forget most of what you've learned about how to defeat it. Most of it is useless and sometimes even harmful to your chess development.

 Learning to look at the threats the opponent's move makes and defend against them is "useless and sometimes even harmful"?

More like, being obsessed about having to track down a stupid queen at all times.

Irongine
psychohist wrote:
wornaki wrote:

Now, if you don't mind me giving you some advice, forget most of what you've learned about how to defeat it. Most of it is useless and sometimes even harmful to your chess development.

 Learning to look at the threats the opponent's move makes and defend against them is "useless and sometimes even harmful"?

I think that they means the tactics effective against nelson are not effective against stronger bots and players. But the skills of seeing threats is useful.

wornaki
ChesswithNickolay wrote:

Nelson is just a bot, if you think beating a bot who moves the queen out early is an accomplishment, then I am not sure what your meaning of an accomplishment even is!

That's the spirit of the people in this community. Never a word of encouragement. That's how people roll in this community. Openly disparaging everybody and respecting nobody. Congratulations on reaching such a high level of petulance.

BroiledRat
Ignore the the troll OP.

Good job on beating the bot.

And Nickolay, he finds it to be an achievement relative to his skill level.

If you beat a 2000 and you were feeling good about yourself, wouldn’t it be obnoxious to you if a titled player walked up and said how meaningless the achievement is, because they beat 2000 rated players easily?

BroiledRat
While it is true that it wouldn’t mean anything about your overall playing strength, would you not be proud that you were the underdog and came out on top regardless?

Sure, the titled player would technically be correct, but they could have said it with more tact, instead of being dismissive and condescending.
laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a respected  chess coach in California!  

 

 

Keep up the good work!  He can be tricky with his queen sometimes! 

 

 I have made  several videos on how to beat Nelson:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLR5GH_suTBDe4TfiSYRg27UcKd5jigisp

Marcyful

Its good to hear that disgrace of a bot has been adopted once again

zepharito

Great