is it correct to resign as a beginner if you’re losing badly?

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TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
Wits-end wrote:

So… back to the OP’s question. I often try to snag games against higher rated players. Once i find myself in a total losing position (too often i might add) I’ll typically resign and say thank you for the game. A time or two I’ve chatted with this “ i know I should resign, but I’d like to play on for the sake of learning” if accepted we play on. Conversely, I don’t mind those that grind it out and force me to “win” the game rather than crowing about how I’m owed a resignation. I feel that at my level, if i cannot convert an opponents blunder to a win, i don’t deserve it. I look at it as just more practice against a real human rather than a computer that never plays like one. 

Depends 

Care to elaborate on your position of “depends”? Just curious to understand your thoughts.

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so if yure opponent has a queen but yuh doesn't and it's a dead loss endgame position. do yuh even think your opponent makes a blunder? 

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playing without a knight or bishop is alright yuh can retain it or yuh can manage it by some dirty tricks like exchanging all pawns as possible and exchanging the pieces with an idea of draw 

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TRAP4MOUSE wrote:

so if yure opponent has a queen but yuh doesn't and it's a dead loss endgame position. do yuh even think your opponent makes a blunder? 

If you’ve responded to my question (I’m not sure) my answer is “no, i don’t expect my opponent to blunder anything.” But if my opponent is open to playing on for the sake of learning (again usually rated higher than me), what’s to lose? I will likely still lose and my opponent will likely still win, but it isn’t about winning or losing for me at that point. 

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no,it is not

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Wits-end wrote:
TRAP4MOUSE wrote:

so if yure opponent has a queen but yuh doesn't and it's a dead loss endgame position. do yuh even think your opponent makes a blunder? 

If you’ve responded to my question (I’m not sure) my answer is “no, i don’t expect my opponent to blunder anything.” But if my opponent is open to playing on for the sake of learning (again usually rated higher than me), what’s to lose? I will likely still lose and my opponent will likely still win, but it isn’t about winning or losing for me at that point. 

mate in 2 do yuh play until last? 

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if yes then yuh have a slight hope that yure opponent will make a blunder 

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the goal is to train your equanimity & mental fortitude in difficult situations.

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TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
Wits-end wrote:
TRAP4MOUSE wrote:

so if yure opponent has a queen but yuh doesn't and it's a dead loss endgame position. do yuh even think your opponent makes a blunder? 

If you’ve responded to my question (I’m not sure) my answer is “no, i don’t expect my opponent to blunder anything.” But if my opponent is open to playing on for the sake of learning (again usually rated higher than me), what’s to lose? I will likely still lose and my opponent will likely still win, but it isn’t about winning or losing for me at that point. 


mate in 2 do yuh play until last? 

When i attempted my response, it looked like you may have tried to post a game position. It doesn’t show in your original post though, I’m not sure why or if I’ve got something wrong on my iPad. Anyway to your question, “No” i would resign and say thank you for the game. However, some of my opponents appreciate playing to the “bitter end” and I’ll oblige them with their well deserved mate. No harm, no foul. 

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It’s important to know when to resign
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ea914 wrote:
It’s important to know when to resign

yea agree this is what I was trying to tell

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It isn't important at all for beginners though.

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Optimissed wrote:

It isn't important at all for beginners though.

I am not talking about beginners 

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TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

It isn't important at all for beginners though.

I am not talking about beginners 

This thread was aimed at beginners. The OP is a beginner. Context is important. 

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Wits-end wrote:
TRAP4MOUSE wrote:
Optimissed wrote:

It isn't important at all for beginners though.

I am not talking about beginners 

This thread was aimed at beginners. The OP is a beginner. Context is important. 

I meant by #82 not for bwginner

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I think it depends sometimes beginners will blunder a completely winning position, or you can flag them if they don't know a mating pattern. 

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Turkish_Emperor wrote:

Depends whether you're playing Bullet, Blitz, Rapid, Daily etc.   With Bullet, I never resign unless I've blundered really badly and it's a hopeless situation, just resign and start a new game.

But as you probably already know, if you play to the end and lose, it's always a good idea to analyse your game afterwards.  In other words, learn from your mistakes, don't just play and play and play and keep making the same mistakes.

In bullet, I usually resign after I blunder unless there are less than 15 seconds on my opponent's clock (and I have a significant time advantage, like 10+ seconds)

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I just like to play on till the jobs done either way. Its the participation that counts and these time outs, resignations etc are just awful. As for that darned en pissant etc!!!! lol I dont get why there is a time limit, can it be adjusted or just switched off? I also dont understand why they write stuff down when it starts getting serious on every move. That would just drive me nuts. I do of course understand why some would want to perfect the art but its a bit time consuming for me and the kids where 10 to 30 mins is long enough on a game before rushing off to smell some flowers in the big wide world........

 

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Just move one of your pieces back and forth until your opponent wins
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I also almost never resign and feel disappointed when my opponent resigns because I really don't know how to see out a win. 

I wonder if people resign because they feel they should or because they really don't want to play to the end? If the latter, we can't do much about it, but if the former we should try to spread the word.

I'd like to suggest a general proto-guideline:
Players rated under 1000, please don't resign except under exceptional circumstances.