My Lord... it's impossible.

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korotky_trinity

It is impossible.

How could I lose this game !

Computer's analysis said that I had 59+ points of advantage in the end of the game.

Really that kind of losses could cause the psychological trauma.

korotky_trinity

Shame on my head... shame, shame, shame. ))

korotky_trinity

Now I see... how easy I could win.

Even two times during the game.

And I notice... I am in the state of panic sometimes... I get very nervious... when I have the such huge advantage in the game.

Do you feel the the same... time by time ?

Or do you keep cold-bloodness in the similar situations to mine ?

It's interesting.

AunTheKnight

Oh, dear. That is so painful! When I have the advantage, I am always scared I will blunder it away, and then I do… Must get rid of emotion…!

MisterWindUpBird

That knight sitting there in the centre half the game cruelled you, I'd say. Neutralised a lot of your potential tactics. I offer no commentary on the endgame, just condolences... 

Romans_5_8_and_8_5

72. Qa3?? Not quite how you're supposed to win queen vs. pawn. Instead,

72. Qc3+ Kb1 Force the king to hide in front of the pawn, then bring your king closer. 

73. Kf2 Ka2 74. Qc4+ Keep giving checks to get your queen in a good position. 

Ka3 75. Qc2 Ka2 76. Qa4+ Kb1 Now the king has to hide in front of the pawn, so bring your king closer. 

77. Ke2 M3 1-0

PineappleBird

Were you in time trouble?

I  did an exercise for myself: 

 

I have a Queen, stockfish at maximum level has some pawns, challenge stockfish to a BULLET (!) match, with 1 minute... It's annoyingly hard sometimes, depending on which pawns he has and how advanced they are.

 

Does anyone know if it's possible to challenge Stockfish to a match with a clock on chess.com?

On lichess it is possible...

 

Work on it this way is very good. I never have issues in these won positions anymore

Marcyful
HeroinSheep wrote:

Were you in time trouble?

I  did an exercise for myself: 

 

I have a Queen, stockfish at maximum level has some pawns, challenge stockfish to a BULLET (!) match, with 1 minute... It's annoyingly hard sometimes, depending on which pawns he has and how advanced they are.

 

Does anyone know if it's possible to challenge Stockfish to a match with a clock on chess.com?

On lichess it is possible...

 

Work on it this way is very good. I never have issues in these won positions anymore

Play against the engine found in Computer in Play found at the left side of your screen if you're using the website. In the app you'll find it in Play Computer. Then you set the mode to Custom which will give you options on how the game will be played like the time control of the game.

UmarBadeko

It not your fault you Did not know the theory about king and pawn on the seventh vs king and queen endgame this is just something that does not occur frequently. But this now show you need to update your endgame theory so sober up and get back to studying. Wish you luck on your next tricky theoretical endgame.

UmarBadeko
Marcyful wrote:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

Like I said this is just theory and I would won this blindfolded.

Numquam
Marcyful schreef:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

I think most 2000+ players would win this. You don't have to see some mate in 10+. The idea is very simple and not that uncommon. You make the king block the pawn, so that you got a move to bring the king closer. This reminds me that in a similar endgame where the pawn is on the c-file and there are no other pawns on the board it is actually a draw.

 

 

 

Sred

At least now you know how to fight against that advanced pawn - unless it's a Bishop's Pawn wink.png

Rook_Handler
Marcyful wrote:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

Nope, this is a basic win for 1600+. You just have to force the king (with checks) to step in front of his pawn, then march your King a square closer to the pawn. You just repeat the process until your King is close enough to win the pawn. Very important but not very difficult endgame.

UmarBadeko

The way to win this endgame is to make sure your opponent king sits on the promotion Square then use the extra tempo to bring your king closer to the pawn sooner or later your king will be so close that you will suffocate his king and checkmate him all you have to worry about is threefold repetition and draw by stalemate which does not look likely in this position.

Rook_Handler
Numquam wrote:
Marcyful schreef:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

I think most 2000+ players would win this. You don't have to see some mate in 10+. The idea is very simple and not that uncommon. You make the king block the pawn, so that you got a move to bring the king closer. This reminds me that in a similar endgame where the pawn is on the c-file and there are no other pawns on the board it is actually a draw.

 
 

 

 

Same for if the pawn is on a rook-file.

Sred
Sred wrote:

At least now you know how to fight against that advanced pawn - unless it's a Bishop's Pawn

To elaborate: with e.g. a black King on a1 and a Pawn on c2, the white Queen can't take that Pawn without immobilizing the black King. So, stalemate tricks 

PineappleBird
Rook_Handler wrote:
Marcyful wrote:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

Nope, this is a basic win for 1600+. You just have to force the king (with checks) to step in front of his pawn, then march your King a square closer to the pawn. You just repeat the process until your King is close enough to win the pawn. Very important but not very difficult endgame.

I'd even say 1300+. 2000+ is streching it by alot. 

It's not very common but it does happen, especially with time trouble! In bullet it happens more.

@korotky_trinity check out my suggestion on a practical training method that worked for me, because I assume you were in severe time trouble even if it was rapid... So my method is practical for training for these situations

PineappleBird

again, there is a technical aspect of pinning the pawn, checking the king, threatening to take the pawn when the king is away from it,  and bringing your king in... but the thing is to know this automatically to be able to preform it under time pressure. 

Marcyful
HeroinSheep wrote:
Rook_Handler wrote:
Marcyful wrote:

I took a closer look at the game through the analysis and apparently... the engine expects you to win this by giving loads of seemingly aimless checks, making sure not to draw by threefold repetition, AND bringing the king closer to the king and pawn at the exact moment to deliver checkmate in 10 or even more moves ahead. There is nothing to be ashamed of @korotky_trinity. I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

Nope, this is a basic win for 1600+. You just have to force the king (with checks) to step in front of his pawn, then march your King a square closer to the pawn. You just repeat the process until your King is close enough to win the pawn. Very important but not very difficult endgame.

I'd even say 1300+. 2000+ is streching it by alot. 

Yeah, in retrospect I stretched it way too much.

pfren
Marcyful wrote:

 I'm pretty sure even a 2000 cannot find a way through this "winning" endgame.

 

Actually this is part of the endgame lesson #4 or maybe #5 for beginners.

It is the very first examnple at the Queen Endings chapter of Keres' "Practical Chess Endings", and white's method is very far away from being rocket science..