"Never resign."

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Ben Finegold reportedly tells his students, particularly beginners, never to resign.
In a 30-minute per-player game, I was playing white, and black had a mate in 3 with four minutes on the clock (I had about 6.)  If he missed it, I'd have a mate next move, but if he saw it, he won.
He resigned.  When I analyzed, I felt bad, but it certainly validated the advice.
This was our final position, with black to play.

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my idea on resigning is more mental focused: it doesn't matter what helps you win this game it only matters what helps you blunder less. I find there is an effect that if I play through a blundered position I am more likely to blunder next game because my mental state is blundering is okay. I think this might depend on the person though. that said in your position I didn't see the mate but I did see knight to h6 check and if the king goes to h file alternate the knight for the draw and if the king goes to f mate 1. needless to say black had options

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Yes!  And to be clear:  Total respect to my opponent, who had me beat this game, though it was a crazy back and forth.

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Great example!
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That would have been an awesome mate too. Nice example and good luck with your chess!

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I've won being 14 points down recently.  The real key is understanding the position and your counterplay chances.  Also a lot of under 1500 players will stalemate.  I was in a tournament last Friday and the player couldn't figure out a checkmate with a queen, and 3 minor peices and walked into a stalemate

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On his defense, spotting the knight mate isn't really easy unless you actually already studied it previously. Although the perpetual checks possibility is quite obvious

 

I also never resign. I've learned my lesson in a game which I resigned although I had a strong feeling that I was winning, just couldn't figure out how - I was down A LOT of material, but my position was really good and my pieces were active.  Later i've analyzed with the engine just to see that I was, in fact, completely winning - and it wasn't even that hard to spot, I just figured that with all the material I lost I couldn't win anymore... lol

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jerrylmacdonald wrote:

I've won being 14 points down recently.  The real key is understandig the position and your counterplay cbances.  Also a lot of under 1500 players will stalemate.  I was in a tournament last Friday and the player could figure out a checkmate with a queen, and 3 minor peices and walked into a stalemate

I remember when I was below 1500 in a rapid game. I was hopelessly lost, but I saw a stalemate trick! Desperate, I played it, and he fell for it!

 

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true

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I also pull out victories in blitz games because of it.

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just enjoy the game. without much thinking. life is life, ladies and gentlemen!

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How did he miss the smothered mate??

1. ..Nh3++ 2. Kh1 Qg1+ 3. Rxg1 Nf2# seems obvious to me.

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Indeed I had a game that ignoring the reflex to resign after a blunder ended up working out for me. After I went and blundered my queen (at least it was a complicated blunder - not a simple immediate capture - but a position where I found my queen attacked and all the escape options would lead to her capture). I played on - my opponent's pieces were surprisingly passive at that point and I found an attacking idea. Although I missed a mate in 1 within that attack, I was able to play to clear advantage and my opponent resigned (they were also behind on clock and position and material at the end). I was down a whopping 15 points of material after my queen blunder.

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Dsmith42 wrote:

How did he miss the smothered mate??

1. ..Nh3++ 2. Kh1 Qg1+ 3. Rxg1 Nf2# seems obvious to me.

 

The obviousness of a thing like that depends a lot on having memorized the pattern.  My opponent spent about two out of four minutes available calculating, but time pressure, seeing that I was so close to a mate, myself, and our overall low rating (he's at about 900 and I'm at about 800) added up to not seeing his own options.  Since I've had a couple of club-level players say "Oh yeah, I wouldn't have seen that," it seems to me it's not obvious to everyone!

I wouldn't have seen it either, but I saw the first move, and it seems to me that spending those couple of minutes playing it out couldn't be any worse than a resignation (and would likely have given him a win.)  He would have hit upon it just moving pieces and keeping me in check, most likely.

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It's a pattern mate that's usually in the first chapter of any beginner's chess book.  I show it to beginners at my local club fairly often, because it showcases the importance of the double-check.

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Wait until the clock drops or the checkmate is delivered.

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Paleobotanical wrote:
Dsmith42 wrote:

How did he miss the smothered mate??

1. ..Nh3++ 2. Kh1 Qg1+ 3. Rxg1 Nf2# seems obvious to me.

 

The obviousness of a thing like that depends a lot on having memorized the pattern.  My opponent spent about two out of four minutes available calculating, but time pressure, seeing that I was so close to a mate, myself, and our overall low rating (he's at about 900 and I'm at about 800) added up to not seeing his own options.  Since I've had a couple of club-level players say "Oh yeah, I wouldn't have seen that," it seems to me it's not obvious to everyone!

I wouldn't have seen it either, but I saw the first move, and it seems to me that spending those couple of minutes playing it out couldn't be any worse than a resignation (and would likely have given him a win.)  He would have hit upon it just moving pieces and keeping me in check, most likely.

Since he did not even go for a perpetual, I'd think he did not even realize that he had a discovered check.

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Tzesar wrote:
Dsmith42 wrote:

How did he miss the smothered mate??

1. ..Nh3++ 2. Kh1 Qg1+ 3. Rxg1 Nf2# seems obvious to me.

guess its a low rated game, else i cant explain it. but sometimes you miss the easiest mates because you are just blind. happens ot all of us

Edit: as op is 800 rating i gues it was a low rated game. 800s usually dont see it unless they have seen it in the chess.com lesson guides already. but i think i have seen it first time at arround 900-1000

Yep. I play blind games once in a while with my friends and it becomes a simple but common mistake. sad.png 

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SameerAchhab1 wrote:

 

yep, i see it

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Dsmith42 wrote:

It's a pattern mate that's usually in the first chapter of any beginner's chess book.  I show it to beginners at my local club fairly often, because it showcases the importance of the double-check.

 

Actually no - I saw it the first time while looking at puzzles at some other site many years ago. I never learnt it when I had a rating of 1200+ at the time on yet another site. I never used a single chess book at all during that period of time.