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Radiata

Hey, I'm new to chess, so I've been looking for some easy opening lines to start with, as I would like to focus on studying tactics and other more important topics rather than memorizing all the main lines. I currently play the london system as white, the scandinavian modern as black against e4, and I try going for some kind of king's indian against d4, through I'm sure I'm terrible with black. Are there any simpler lines for a beginner to work with? Thanks!

kindaspongey

Perhaps it would be a good idea to start with Discovering Chess Openings, a book about opening principles.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627114655/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen91.pdf

Here are some books that include ideas to help the reader to choose specific openings for Black:

Openings for Amateurs by Pete Tamburro (2014)
http://kenilworthian.blogspot.com/2014/05/review-of-pete-tamburros-openings-for.html
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/openings-for-amateurs/

https://www.chess.com/blog/ForwardChess/book-of-the-week-openings-for-amateurs
https://www.mongoosepress.com/catalog/excerpts/openings_amateurs.pdf

First Steps: 1 e4 e5
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/first-steps-1-e4-e5-by-john-emms/

First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

Books with suggestions for White:

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf
https://chessbookreviews.wordpress.com/tag/vincent-moret/
Opening Repertoire 1 e4
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7819.pdf

A general introduction to openings:

Yasser Seirawan's Winning Chess Openings
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627132508/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen173.pdf

Be sure to try to use an opening in games in between sessions of learning. Most of the time, one faces a position with no knowledge of a specific move indicated in a book. One has to accept that as part of chess, and think of opening knowledge as a sometimes helpful aid. After a game, it makes sense to try to look up the moves in a book and see if it has some indication of how one might have played better in the opening. Many opening books are part explanation and part reference material. The reference material is included in the text with the idea that one mostly skips it on a first reading, and looks at an individual item when it applies to a game that one has just played. Resist the temptation to try to turn a book into a mass memorization project. There are many important subjects that one should not neglect because of too much time on opening study.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/learning-an-opening-to-memorize-or-understand
"... Overall, I would advise most players to stick to a fairly limited range of openings, and not to worry about learning too much by heart. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... I feel that the main reasons to buy an opening book are to give a good overview of the opening, and to explain general plans and ideas. ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... If the book contains illustrative games, it is worth playing these over first ..." - GM John Nunn (2006)
"... the average player only needs to know a limited amount about the openings he plays. Providing he understands the main aims of the opening, a few typical plans and a handful of basic variations, that is enough. ..." - FM Steve Giddins (2008)
"... Everyman Chess has started a new series aimed at those who want to understand the basics of an opening, i.e., the not-yet-so-strong players. ... I imagine [there] will be a long series based on the premise of bringing the basic ideas of an opening to the reader through plenty of introductory text, game annotations, hints, plans and much more. ..." - FM Carsten Hansen (2002)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627055734/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen38.pdf
"The way I suggest you study this book is to play through the main games once, relatively quickly, and then start playing the variation in actual games. Playing an opening in real games is of vital importance - without this kind of live practice it is impossible to get a 'feel' for the kind of game it leads to. There is time enough later for involvement with the details, after playing your games it is good to look up the line." - GM Nigel Davies (2005)
"... Review each of your games, identifying opening (and other) mistakes with the goal of not repeatedly making the same mistake. ... It is especially critical not to continually fall into opening traps – or even lines that result in difficult positions ..." - NM Dan Heisman (2007)
https://web.archive.org/web/20140627062646/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/heisman81.pdf

daxypoo
i am in no position to offer advice on openings

personally, i play 1.d4 1...x 2.c4 (unless i can play 2.e4) as white

i play 1...c6 vs 1e4
and i play 1...d5 vs 1.d4

the important part, i believe, is to stick with it and get familiar with the positions that arise
RussBell

It doesn't get much "simpler" than this....

A solid opening repertoire for Black based on the Philidor Defense against 1.e4, and the Old Indian Defense against 1.d4...

If these are of interest, the best book to quickly get started playing the repertoire is...

Play 1...d6 Against Everything by Zude & Hickl....

https://www.amazon.com/Play-Against-Everything-Ready-use/dp/9056917447/ref=sr_1_1?crid=14TIDYAETPOG6&keywords=play+1...d6+against+everything&qid=1574332810&s=books&sprefix=play+1+d6+against+everything%2Cstripbooks%2C206&sr=1-1

The following is a similar repertoire based on the same openings...which I would suggest as a supplement to the book above should you choose to pursue the repertoire...

Side Stepping Mainline Theory by Welling & Giddins...

https://www.amazon.com/Side-stepping-Mainline-Theory-Middlegame-Familiar/dp/9056918699/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3SESPAVAFS8NH&keywords=sidestepping+mainline+theory&qid=1574333649&s=books&sprefix=sidestepp%2Cstripbooks%2C192&sr=1-1

The following cover these openings in depth...

The Philidor Files: Detailed Coverage Of A Dynamic Opening by Christian Bauer...

https://www.amazon.com/Philidor-Files-Detailed-Coverage-Everyman/dp/1857444361/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+philidor+files&qid=1574333799&s=books&sr=1-1

The Old Indian: Move by Move by Junior Tay...

https://www.amazon.com/Old-Indian-Move/dp/1781942323/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+old+indian+move+by+move&qid=1574333890&s=books&sr=1-1

be sure to check out my blog articles...

Chess Openings Resources for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/openings-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

Introduction To The London System...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/the-london-system

RussBell

@Radiata -

On second thought, and considering the fact that you're new to chess and thus at the beginner-novice level, I believe that, at this stage of your development, it would be more beneficial and appropriate for you to consider an opening repertoire that is more "dynamic' than typically found in the more 'positional" openings such as London System, King's Indian/Old Indian/Philidor Defences.

To that end, I suggest an opening repertoire of the sort to be found in Vincent Moret's books would be very appropriate for you.  Not only are the openings/defenses he presents more dynamic, but the books are targeted/written specifically for the beginner-intermediate level player.  Moret also does an exceptional job of explaining not only WHAT to play but also HOW to go about playing the recommended lines.  He is an excellent teacher and you will learn a lot about how to just play good chess by studying the books.  Finally, it has been said that, particularly for the improving chess amateur, it is not so important which opening you play, as how well you understand the opening you are playing - i.e., it's themes and plans.  This is certainly true for the beginner-novice player.  Moret's books focus specifically on understanding the concepts, techniques and strategies involved in playing the lines he presents.  And the books present just enough material to get you started quickly playing the openings, without weighing you down with excessive amounts of 'theory' or variations to memorize.  For these reasons I highly recommend to consider his two books...

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for White: A Turn-key Package for Ambitious Beginners by Vincent Moret...

(check out my Amazon review - as 'RLBell' -  of Moret's  White repertoire book)

https://www.amazon.com/First-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-White/dp/9056916335/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=my+first+chess+opening+repertoire+for+white&qid=1574338516&s=books&sr=1-1

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9033.pdf

My First Chess Opening Repertoire for Black: A Ready-to-go Package for Ambitious Beginners by Vincent Moret...

https://www.amazon.com/First-Chess-Opening-Repertoire-Ready/dp/9056917463/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3S3EEX9LWSCBD&keywords=my+first+chess+opening+repertoire+for+black&qid=1574338449&s=books&sprefix=my+first+chess+ope%2Cstripbooks%2C198&sr=1-1

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/9050.pdf

Pawngrabber8006

1....a6

kindaspongey

"As Black, I think that [players with very limited experience] would do well … playing 1...e5 versus 1 e4 and 1...d5 versus 1 d4. … [After 1 d4 d5, if] White plays the most important move, 2 c4, inexperienced players might want to begin classically with 2...e6 followed by ...Nf6 and ...Be7 …" - IM John Watson (2010)

First Steps: 1 e4 e5
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/first-steps-1-e4-e5-by-john-emms/

and First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

are intended to help the player who wants to make those choices.

st0ckfish
kindaspongey wrote:

"As Black, I think that [players with very limited experience] would do well … playing 1...e5 versus 1 e4 and 1...d5 versus 1 d4. … [After 1 d4 d5, if] White plays the most important move, 2 c4, inexperienced players might want to begin classically with 2...e6 followed by ...Nf6 and ...Be7 …" - IM John Watson (2010)

First Steps: 1 e4 e5
https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7790.pdf

https://chesscafe.com/book-reviews/first-steps-1-e4-e5-by-john-emms/

and First Steps: Queen's Gambit

https://www.newinchess.com/media/wysiwyg/product_pdf/7652.pdf

are intended to help the player who wants to make those choices.

eyyyyyyy......I play 1....e5 against e4 grin.png And I am a patzer happy.png 

RussBell

@Radiata -

Spongey is ok.  His commentary is mostly helpful.  It's those with nothing positive to contribute that you should ignore.

Sred

I'd certainly avoid the King's Indian, because it's just so very difficult. You need theoretical knowledge as well as advanced strategical skills to play that with confidence.

The Tarrasch is often recommended. (1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 c5 )

RussBell
Sred wrote:

I'd certainly avoid the King's Indian, because it's just so very difficult. You need theoretical knowledge as well as advanced strategical skills to play that with confidence.

I agree...