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erinc85

Hello.

I am a 900~ elo chess player. After couple of months of playing and no study, I climbed to 1100+ elo. After that point I wanted to improve even further and bought a chess board and chess books. For a month I studied tactics, puzzles and basically philosophy of the game (no playing at all). After a month I returned to game and immediately dropped to 900~ elo rating. After I researched about this, people told me that this is temporary and my brain is rewiring and after it is done I will come back even stronger. However it didn't happen. Even after a hundred games. I regressed permanently. Once I was pushing 1200 elo, now getting beaten by 900's. It is extremely hard for me to beat >1000 elo players. Even 800's giving me hard time.

What went wrong? Did I embed my errors by studying alone? Will I ever improve?

Thank you.

ShuckleSquad13

Maybe you are overthinking. Are you losing on time or time pressure, or because you miss certain moves? If you are losing on time, maybe try playing longer time control games like 15/10 or 30/0. Try to think about each individual move and ask yourself, "Is this a blunder? Am I hanging anything? Can I take any pieces or pawns for free?" After each move by your opponent, ask yourself, "What is he/she threatening?"

Hope this helped.

erinc85
ShuckleSquad13 wrote:

Maybe you are overthinking. Are you losing on time or time pressure, or because you miss certain moves? If you are losing on time, maybe try playing longer time control games like 15/10 or 30/0. Try to think about each individual move and ask yourself, "Is this a blunder? Am I hanging anything? Can I take any pieces or pawns for free?" After each move by your opponent, ask yourself, "What is he/she threatening?"

Hope this helped.

 

Thank you for your response.

I usually blunder horribly. Like a true beginner, LOL. Actually I just realized that I never put myself on time pressure. I don't know if it is a good thing (maybe I play too fast?) And I always ask myself "What is he/she threatening?" but obviously I misinterpret the situation. Funny thing is that, I was better before studying.

ShuckleSquad13

Maybe you should make a lichess account for free puzzles so you recognize tactical situations.

ShuckleSquad13

Hopefully I don't get banned for promoting the "other" site tho. lol

erinc85
ShuckleSquad13 wrote:

Hopefully I don't get banned for promoting the "other" site tho. lol

Be careful, admins honestly don't like it happy.png
As for the puzzles, I already have a paid account here which means I have thousands of puzzles at my disposal. And I solved more than 4000 of them. I recently reset my puzzle stats in order to start over. Before that I was around 1800~ elo on puzzles.

PawnTsunami
erinc85 wrote:

Hello.

I am a 900~ elo chess player. After couple of months of playing and no study, I climbed to 1100+ elo. After that point I wanted to improve even further and bought a chess board and chess books. For a month I studied tactics, puzzles and basically philosophy of the game (no playing at all). After a month I returned to game and immediately dropped to 900~ elo rating. After I researched about this, people told me that this is temporary and my brain is rewiring and after it is done I will come back even stronger. However it didn't happen. Even after a hundred games. I regressed permanently. Once I was pushing 1200 elo, now getting beaten by 900's. It is extremely hard for me to beat >1000 elo players. Even 800's giving me hard time.

What went wrong? Did I embed my errors by studying alone? Will I ever improve?

Thank you.

A couple notes here:

First, you cannot study only and expect to improve your playing.  You must also play and analyze where you went wrong in the games.

Second, at that level, there is no need to study "philosophy of the game" or strategic concepts or openings.  All you need to study are basic endgames and basic tactics.  You should practice basic opening principles and look up the openings you played after a game to see how masters handled those positions.  You get better by recognizing when your opponent has made a mistake and avoid making them yourself.

It is also worth noting that a couple months of study is not enough to make a drastic improvement in your game.

tygxc

#1

"playing and no study" ++ Key is to analyse lost games

"I studied tactics, puzzles and basically philosophy of the game"
++ You cannot study tactics. Puzzles are no real chess, like soccer is not penalty kicks.
You can study grandmaster games and you can study endgames.

"I returned to game and immediately dropped to 900"
++ That is normal. You got rusty. Use it or lose it.

"I will come back even stronger" ++ You only come back stronger after analysing lost games.

#3

"I usually blunder horribly"
++ Always check your intended move is no blunder before you play it.

"I never put myself on time pressure" ++ Time is a resource. Use it.

"maybe I play too fast?"
++ If you lose on the board with time left on your clock, then you play too fast.
If you lose on time in a won position, then you play too slow.

erinc85
PawnTsunami wrote:
erinc85 wrote:

Hello.

I am a 900~ elo chess player. After couple of months of playing and no study, I climbed to 1100+ elo. After that point I wanted to improve even further and bought a chess board and chess books. For a month I studied tactics, puzzles and basically philosophy of the game (no playing at all). After a month I returned to game and immediately dropped to 900~ elo rating. After I researched about this, people told me that this is temporary and my brain is rewiring and after it is done I will come back even stronger. However it didn't happen. Even after a hundred games. I regressed permanently. Once I was pushing 1200 elo, now getting beaten by 900's. It is extremely hard for me to beat >1000 elo players. Even 800's giving me hard time.

What went wrong? Did I embed my errors by studying alone? Will I ever improve?

Thank you.

A couple notes here:

First, you cannot study only and expect to improve your playing.  You must also play and analyze where you went wrong in the games.

Second, at that level, there is no need to study "philosophy of the game" or strategic concepts or openings.  All you need to study are basic endgames and basic tactics.  You should practice basic opening principles and look up the openings you played after a game to see how masters handled those positions.  You get better by recognizing when your opponent has made a mistake and avoid making them yourself.

It is also worth noting that a couple months of study is not enough to make a drastic improvement in your game.

Thank you

erinc85
tygxc wrote:

#1

"playing and no study" ++ Key is to analyse lost games

"I studied tactics, puzzles and basically philosophy of the game"
++ You cannot study tactics. Puzzles are no real chess, like soccer is not penalty kicks.
You can study grandmaster games and you can study endgames.

"I returned to game and immediately dropped to 900"
++ That is normal. You got rusty. Use it or lose it.

"I will come back even stronger" ++ You only come back stronger after analysing lost games.

#3

"I usually blunder horribly"
++ Always check your intended move is no blunder before you play it.

"I never put myself on time pressure" ++ Time is a resource. Use it.

"maybe I play too fast?"
++ If you lose on the board with time left on your clock, then you play too fast.
If you lose on time in a won position, then you play too slow.

 

Thanks for the advice.

Duckfest

I've looked at two of your recent losses.

Overall, your play is pretty good. It didn't feel like I was looking at sub-1k rated games. Your rating could be much higher (1100-1200) if you work on your consistency.

But your blunders are an issue. In both games they were really unnecessary. Which is a good thing, because that's easier to fix blunder caused by inattention than blunders that are caused by misunderstanding the position.

What I use as a blunder check is for every move I consider playing to quickly identify checks, captures and attacks.  First, as it's the most forcing move, see if your opponent can check you Seconds, what pieces can my opponent capture? This one is most often skipped, or done partially, you have to consider all of them. Three, what pieces can my opponent attack? Take some time for this each move and you will do a lot better,

GL!

erinc85
Duckfest wrote:

I've looked at two of your recent losses.

Overall, your play is pretty good. It didn't feel like I was looking at sub-1k rated games. Your rating could be much higher (1100-1200) if you work on your consistency.

But your blunders are an issue. In both games they were really unnecessary. Which is a good thing, because that's easier to fix blunder caused by inattention than blunders that are caused by misunderstanding the position.

What I use as a blunder check is for every move I consider playing to quickly identify checks, captures and attacks.  First, as it's the most forcing move, see if your opponent can check you Seconds, what pieces can my opponent capture? This one is most often skipped, or done partially, you have to consider all of them. Three, what pieces can my opponent attack? Take some time for this each move and you will do a lot better,

GL!

That was actually very helpful. Thank you so much!

laurengoodkindchess

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 I don't know exactly what happened.  If you send me one of your games and I'll be happy to analyze the game for free on my YouTube channel on Sunday livestream from 1-2PM PST.  Ask me questions in real time!  

 

 This is a great way to improve!

 

Here’s more  ideas to help you get better.  

-I recommend two books for you: “50 Poison Pieces”   and “Queen For A Day: The Girl’s Guide To Chess Mastery.”  Both books are available on Amazon.com.  Both books are endorsed by chess masters!  

-If you are serious about chess, I highly recommend you hiring a chess coach to help you.  

-Also consider all checks and captures on your side and also your opponent’s side. Always as, “If I move here, where is my opponent going to move?”. Do this for every single move!  

-Play with a slow time control, such as G/30 so you have plenty of time to think before every move.