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jennjollygreen
Was watching some masters play through elo speedruns yesterday. Played a match with game review estimating 850 elo ( I learned what castling was this week. I'm very new at chess). Obviously still not playing "well", but I felt really in "the zone". Just saying that youtube seems to be great way to pick up on things passively (great for me as a working adult newbie).
Im_a_Crow

If you are learning on your own from yt, I would strictly advise watching robert ramirez course from beginner to master. It is a treasure.

Im_a_Crow

Also check out 'dr. Can's clinic' chess channel. It is also very good.

RussBell

@jennjollygreen

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond.....

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

Your avatar suggests this might be of interest...

Good Classical Music Performances...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/good-classical-music-performances

jennjollygreen
RussBell wrote:

@jennjollygreen

Improving Your Chess - Resources for Beginners and Beyond.....

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/improving-your-chess-resources-for-beginners-and-beyond

Your avatar suggests this might be of interest...

Good Classical Music Performances...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/good-classical-music-performances

My good sir, you have already provided the foundation for my chess studies. I've combed through this article and obtained most of the books already! Any success i have with my games is at baseline due to you!

jennjollygreen

Another reason youtube is somewhat efficient; I just started Chernev's "logical chess: move by move" and while it's a super fun and engaging read thus far, it took me 2 hours to comb through the first game.

RussBell

Good Chess Books for Beginners and Beyond...

https://www.chess.com/blog/RussBell/good-chess-books-for-beginners-and-beyond

jennjollygreen
RussBell wrote:

Just realized I'm starting with the wrong book according to your list! Thank you for the reminder!

putshort
I don’t know why ice cream for crow recommends from beginner to master by Ramirez YT when it didn’t help ice cream for crow any as they still are low rated!??
jennjollygreen
putshort wrote:
I don’t know why ice cream for crow recommends from beginner to master by Ramirez YT when it didn’t help ice cream for crow any as they still are low rated!??

But you're lower-rated and have been a member of this website for longer?! Why are you being rude? They're out of the beginner stage, likely thanks to those videos. I'm listening to them.

Im_a_Crow

#9 bro is 9 years old.

jennjollygreen

I didn't know! I feel bad. Another reason why people under 13 shouldn't be allowed on public forums. This is what chesskid is for, no?

ChessMasteryOfficial

Try to actively engage with the content by following along with the instructor's explanations, pausing to analyze positions and practicing the concepts discussed in your own games.

play4fun64

If you can afford to buy chess paper books, it's better than watching YouTube. PDF isn't more effective than YouTube.

jennjollygreen
play4fun64 wrote:

If you can afford to buy chess paper books, it's better than watching YouTube. PDF isn't more effective than YouTube.

Are you saying that paperback delivers content better than online reading? I would love to see the data to back that up.

If that's what you're saying, please don't cite that study out of University of Valencia. I unfortunately cant access the full article, but based on the abstract:

"Previous research has evidenced a strong positive relationship between leisure print reading habits and reading comprehension across the lifespan. The rapid evolution of new forms of leisure digital reading could modify such a relationship. This meta-analysis extends previous research by analyzing the relationship between leisure digital reading habits and reading comprehension. We analyzed 40 effect sizes using multilevel analysis. Data involved 469,564 participants from studies published between 2000 and 2022. The average effect size reflects a small significant effect on reading comprehension (r = .055), which contrasts with the medium size effects found in the literature related to print reading habits and comprehension. This relationship is significantly moderated by the reader’s educational stage. At early stages (primary and middle school) negative relationships are observed between leisure digital reading and text comprehension, while at later stages (high school and university) the relationship turns positive. We highlight the different contributions that reading modalities and technological contexts have on our reading comprehension, especially across the lifespan. In sum, leisure digital reading does not seem to pay off in terms of reading comprehension, at least, as much as traditional print reading does."

1. This is about leisure reading; studying and going through games from a pdf is hardly "leisure reading" however fun it is

2. This is primarily regarding the negative impact on children; I'm 27, so. I wish I had the r's for those stratified groups, but I don't because I'm not paying for that article. Regardless.

I'll stick to my PDFs and youtube (which is for leisure) until proven otherwise.

play4fun64

It's a personal experience. Considering YouTube and PDF cost nothing, it's a practical choice. Paper books have a psychological effects on the readers to study more seriously..

Kaeldorn
jennjollygreen a écrit :
play4fun64 wrote:

If you can afford to buy chess paper books, it's better than watching YouTube. PDF isn't more effective than YouTube.

Are you saying that paperback delivers content better than online reading? I would love to see the data to back that up.

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I'll stick to my PDFs and youtube (which is for leisure) until proven otherwise.

Your babling doesn't compensate for your very low Elo ratings. You're asking for proofs? Your rating alone is the proof you're doing it wrong.

Study and videos... What a strange mixture. Videos go at their own pace, yeah? While one do read at their own pace. But okay keep it up convincing yourself with your nonsense, nobody cares.

Kaeldorn

I mean, seriously, how is it you're asking for help and advices then show arrogance in your postings out of a very low level of understanding? It's pathetic.

jennjollygreen
Kaeldorn wrote:

I mean, seriously, how is it you're asking for help and advices then show arrogance in your postings out of a very low level of understanding? It's pathetic.

I am only pointing out that the anti-digital reading propaganda is unfounded in general. There is no science to back up the preference for physical books. Who would have thought someone who has only played chess for a week would have a low elo rating? Crazy.

I also wasn't asking for advice in this post. Is this not a place for beginners to talk about their chess experiences?

jennjollygreen
play4fun64 wrote:

It's a personal experience. Considering YouTube and PDF cost nothing, it's a practical choice. Paper books have a psychological effects on the readers to study more seriously..

If you like it, you like it. Physical books are great for sure; I will just not stand for ebook slander lol.