Hi, I'm really new to Chess but have come across this myself as well as stalemates, its likely the threefold repetition rule. I think its when you've managed to repeat the same movements x3 times.
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Apr 4, 2022
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I knew about the repetition rule, but this is different. I've been in the process of pushing the king towards the checkmate when it suddenly says when no ones made a mistake it's a draw? It makes no sense to me because it will usually take more than two moves to checkmate the king.
3 moves by repetition is one way as stated, Most likely from what you said, your opponents king was not in check. He had no legal moves by any piece and if the King moved he would be putting himself in check, (which is also illegal) and it is his turn to move. Since he is suppose to move but not in check, and unable to move. it is a stalemate.
Edited to add - There is a third rule which is the 50 move per side without the movement of a pawn or no captures made.
Apr 4, 2022
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Yes, I know that , but it was not the case in the scenario I've had happen. It said since no player had made a mistake in the last two moves , it's a draw and I was careful not to cause a stalemate. I'll have to screenshot it the next time I see it. Maybe it's some setting I have, I don't know, but it doesn't make sense to me.
If your opponent has no legal moves and is not in check it’s a stalemate.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure what you are encountering is draw by stalemate.
Keep in mind that when you are playing bots they may say stuff not really related to the game. Such as these "no one made a mistake therefore it's a draw" thing. Also whenever they lose a queen they go all "oh no" and such, even thought it is a queen trade... But those baloons of the computer do not reflect the particular game, they were just generic catchphrases designed to meet most situations.
Scwashere wrote:
Yes, I know that , but it was not the case in the scenario I've had happen. It said since no player had made a mistake in the last two moves , it's a draw and I was careful not to cause a stalemate. I'll have to screenshot it the next time I see it. Maybe it's some setting I have, I don't know, but it doesn't make sense to me.
Can you send the exact game here?
50 move rule maybe?
Scwashere wrote:
I knew about the repetition rule, but this is different. I've been in the process of pushing the king towards the checkmate when it suddenly says when no ones made a mistake it's a draw? It makes no sense to me because it will usually take more than two moves to checkmate the king.
Could be one of the following.
1. It is really stalemate - maybe you thought that your opponent had a legal move, but the only piece which appears to be able to move happens to also be pinned.
2. Threefold repetition - but this must have lasted for 50 moves (or 100 half-moves) without any pawn advance or material capture.
3. Timeout - you flagged in a winning position, but your opponent does not have sufficient winning material.
Apr 4, 2022
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"neither player made a mistake in the last two moves."that´s a nice Idea: all im´s, gm´s, super gm´s, fm´s, and so on could go to the employment agency and search new jobs (i.e. carlsen as postal clerc) and all the poor 350 and 400 Elo´s would fight for the world championship. That would have been good for the 1. of April I think.
Honestly, the whole thing sounds like an April fools joke by Scwashere.
Apr 5, 2022
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magipi, I can assure you it is not an April fools joke. I will keep track of the game that it occurred on and screenshot the game and post here. Maybe it was beyond a time limit or some such thing. But the last time it happened, the king had legitimate moves and there were also moves that other pieces(pawns could make). I'm sure there was no repetition of moves. Number 3 by Eric0022 about Timeout sounds interesting, I definitely was in a winning position, I just couldn't checkmate because it stopped the game with that message. I will try to get to happen again. I'm playing a bot well above my skill level so getting a win is hard for me.
Hi,
I apologize in advance for a "dumb" question but I don't understand a rule that I am encountering when playing against the computer. I don't know if is just for games against the computer or if it applies in player vs player games.
I've had several games now that ended in a draw because, and I'm paraphrasing here as I can't remember the exact wording, "neither player made a mistake in the last two moves." So the game ends as a draw? In those games, I had a clear advantage, for example my last one I promoted a pawn to queen and I was in the process of going for checkmate when it ended the game? I don't understand why since I would have had a checkmate in just a couple more moves? Or is there something I'm missing here?
thank you
Scott