What happens with the 1100 -1200 range? They´re too strong

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llama44

Naa, I just did it all manually, but yeah, excel would have been faster. Here's some tips to make it go quickly.

You can search for win, loss, and draw separately which makes it easy.

Each page has 50 games, so you only have to count the last page. For example if the last page has 35 games is page 7, then that means the total is 335 games.

If you adjust your screen size so that 10 games barely fit on your screen, you can count the last page very easily and quickly.

llama44

For performance rating there might be online calculators, but also a table like this makes it easy to figure out.

For example if you score 67 percent then your performance is about 125 points higher than your opponent's rating.

If you score 25 percent then you're about 190 lower.

 

PolgarsDaddy

Well if you're used to playing 10 min games, even at a 1500 ish level, you'll find it difficult to play 3 min games at first until you get used to it. Also, 200 elo rating points difference in 3 min blitz doesn't really mean that much... especially at this level since blunders and piece hanging is very common

famousguy

Dude even if there's something fishy about 1300-rated players,put it out of your mind. The last thing you want is a mental block against them.

To be on the safe side side,you can abort the game if you are paired with a platinum or diamond member, as they are generally considered to be tactically strong..

baobab123

Lama glama you would be a great salama! fork.pngwn.png

sndeww

my games are riddled with inaccuracied, blunders, mistakes, and missed wins

Because I'm the guy who just throws pieces at my opponent and hope it works lol

jcsk8
Confused-psyduck wrote:

"Why am I stuck in elo hell, I am a good player" -every League of Legends player. I am afraid chess players aren't so different 

That´s not the point. I´m not saying I´m good at all. The problem I see is that when I loose in the 1300 range or it´s cause I made a clear mistake or the oponent is noticiable a better player. But down the 1100 I lose and strugle the entire game. No castles, both side attacks, all kind of crazy stuff.

jcsk8
llama44 wrote:

I checked your blitz games over the last year. Here are the results:

Your average performance is 1257 and you don't score noticeably better against lower or higher rated opponents.

 

 

 

 

Thats a good one .Thanks for your input. You can see that as a paying member? All those stats.

Confused-psyduck
jcsk8 wrote:
Confused-psyduck wrote:

"Why am I stuck in elo hell, I am a good player" -every League of Legends player. I am afraid chess players aren't so different 

That´s not the point. I´m not saying I´m good at all. The problem I see is that when I loose in the 1300 range or it´s cause I made a clear mistake or the oponent is noticiable a better player. But down the 1100 I lose and strugle the entire game. No castles, both side attacks, all kind of crazy stuff.

It is probably just Because you believe you are supposed to be better than a 1100-1200 players.

Llama provided stats and it turns out your play is slightly above 1250 elo so that s good for you, but at the same time he also showed that your play isn't better than it is against higher ranked players.

And, this has probably more to do with You having a mental barrier When facing those lower rated players. It Could be Because You saw other threads where people say 1100-1200 players cheat or Because you Don't want to lose rating points against a lower rated guy.

But really, that s not different from other games. In games like Lol people would complain that many bronze and silver players are too strong, Just like Hearthstone players would complain that they can't get better than rank 15 Because their lowly rated opponents have too many legendaries. Those are all false excuses.

llama44
jcsk8 wrote:
llama44 wrote:

I checked your blitz games over the last year. Here are the results:

Your average performance is 1257 and you don't score noticeably better against lower or higher rated opponents.

 

 

 

 

Thats a good one .Thanks for your input. You can see that as a paying member? All those stats.

No, I just used the search functions available to everyone, then calculated the stats myself (with a basic calculator and the help of that table I posted above).

Play -> Archive -> Advanced

PawnTsunami

In both of those games, you play 1-move threats, ignore your development, hang pieces, and don't pay any attention to your opponent's threats.  If you make it to 1300 playing like that, it is only out of sheer dumb luck!  Playing like that OTB would have 900's mopping the floor with you.

Instead of looking at the game report numbers and saying "OMG, he played like GM ... he only had 1 mistake and no blunders!", take a look at the game itself and realize that neither of those players played great moves.  They just did not hang pieces, and when you did hang pieces, you had no activity with the rest of your pieces to make a game of it.

llama44

I just played 3 rapid games at the same time and it reminded me of this topic.

Opponent #1 rated 1700 scored 75%
Opponent #2 rated 1750 scored 76%
Opponent #3 rated 1400 scored 95% 

And while I had winning chances in the first two, #3 was drawish the whole time, and even then I only won because of a blunder, at the very end.

Was the 1400 a better player than the other two? No. I didn't have that impression during or after the game.

But I did fail to put pressure on him. I played passively and allowed too many trades. I didn't require him to answer any difficult questions. In the end it was even an opposite color bishop endgame so I had practically no chances to trick him.

korotky_trinity
jcsk8 wrote:

I often go to the 1300 level in blitz. But since I play a bad sequence and drop to the 1200 level I struggle to stay and I even go down tp the 1100 level again.

To go back to the 1300 is MUCH harder than stay in the 1300.

On the game analysis most of them doesn´t make a single blunder and mistakes goes as low as 1 per game.

 

The same strange story with me.

There was time when I was about 1500 in Blytz, now I'm only about 1300...

Nevertheless it seems to me that I play much more freely and well that I did before.

 

The real mystery. )

drmrboss
korotky_trinity wrote:
jcsk8 wrote:

I often go to the 1300 level in blitz. But since I play a bad sequence and drop to the 1200 level I struggle to stay and I even go down tp the 1100 level again.

To go back to the 1300 is MUCH harder than stay in the 1300.

On the game analysis most of them doesn´t make a single blunder and mistakes goes as low as 1 per game.

 

The same strange story with me.

There was time when I was about 1500 in Blytz, now I'm only about 1300...

Nevertheless it seems to me that I play much more freely and well that I did before.

 

The real mystery. )

 There is no mistery!

1200 blunders a lot. ( Fact)

If you cant see his/ blunders, you will still be 1200.

If you can see easily, you will become 1400, 1600.

 

Same apply to 2000, 2500+ human. ( They also blunders but blunder rate become less)

jcsk8

Yep .Thanks all the responses. I opened this thread cause I think that the level has risen here. I´m since 2013. After stop doing the same stupid mistakes I´ve got to 1200 and stayed there for a long time, ocasionally going up to 1300 and back. But lately I seem not to be able even to got to the 1200 again.

The analysis of the games between the 1100 and the 1300 level seems to give the same errors and blunders.

I think I need to work in my middle game a lot. After the opening usually I run out of planes. I tought sksteboard was the most difficult sport on earth. I was totally wrong.

PawnTsunami
jcsk8 wrote:

I think I need to work in my middle game a lot. After the opening usually I run out of planes. I thought skateboard was the most difficult sport on earth. I was totally wrong.

In those 2 games, I noticed 3 things: 

  1. You need to work on your opening principles (specifically, get your king safe and use your entire army)
  2. Your tactics need work
  3. Your thought process needs to be refined.

You are missing tactical opportunities for both yourself and your opponent.  The former indicates that you are not recognizing the opportunities.  The latter indicates that you are not paying attention to your opponent's ideas.  Chess is a 2-player game - your opponent will have some ideas of his own that you need to take into account.

 

And yes, you were totally wrong about skateboarding.  Freestyle Wrestling is definitely the most difficult sport, but Chess is a close second

Confused-psyduck

Curling ranks among thr most difficult sports as well.

korotky_trinity
jcsk8 wrote:

 

I think I need to work in my middle game a lot. After the opening usually I run out of planes. 

The same with me, man.

I think that this is general problem for all beginners.

How to play in the end of the game is more clear to me.

korotky_trinity
PawnTsunami wrote:

 

And yes, you were totally wrong about skateboarding.  Freestyle Wrestling is definitely the most difficult sport, but Chess is a close second

Boxing is more dangerous. A few ex-boxers told me about how damaging to their health... this sport was.

PawnTsunami
korotky_trinity wrote:
PawnTsunami wrote:

 

And yes, you were totally wrong about skateboarding.  Freestyle Wrestling is definitely the most difficult sport, but Chess is a close second

Boxing is more dangerous. A few ex-boxers told me about how damaging to their health... this sport was.

Note that I said "difficult", not "dangerous".