What if opponent didn't move as the books say

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opkkv

I don't understand, why do courses like to say "White moves A, and Black would moves E, whenever it happens, white could move B.."

what if your opponent doesn't move that way?

like 

White moves e4, black moves other piece.

theory is theory, but your opponent does not have to move that piece.

mrizzo14

Books and lessons generally only discuss your opponent's best 2 or 3 moves. It's not feasible to go into detail on all of your opponent's possible moves. Sometimes you just have to think for yourself. With all due respect, at your level you should not study book moves or theory, as your opponents will constantly play random, innacurate moves.

GeorgeWyhv14
mrizzo14 wrote:

Books and lessons generally only discuss your opponent's best 2 or 3 moves. It's not feasible to go into detail on all of your opponent's possible moves. Sometimes you just have to think for yourself. With all due respect, at your level you should not study book moves or theory, as your opponents will constantly play random, innacurate moves.

Opening principles not book moves.

magipi
opkkv wrote:

I don't understand, why do courses like to say "White moves A, and Black would moves E, whenever it happens, white could move B..".

It would be nice to show us an example of this. I have a strong suspicion that you misunderstood something.

tygxc

What to do? Think!

Marcyful

There's always opening principles for beginner and intermediate players such as taking control of the center, developing your pieces to active squares, not bringing your queen out early, and castling. Don't worry about theory. You really don't have to for a long, long while.

IMKeto
opkkv wrote:

I don't understand, why do courses like to say "White moves A, and Black would moves E, whenever it happens, white could move B.."

 

what if your opponent doesn't move that way?

like 

White moves e4, black moves other piece.

 

theory is theory, but your opponent does not have to move that piece.

Quit trying to understand something that is so far over your head it makes no sense. 

What you are asking is like a 4 year old wanting to learn advanced calculus when they don't even know what 2+2 is. 

Start with opening principles.

JamesColeman
opkkv wrote:

I don't understand, why do courses like to say "White moves A, and Black would moves E, whenever it happens, white could move B.."

 

what if your opponent doesn't move that way?

like 

White moves e4, black moves other piece.

 

theory is theory, but your opponent does not have to move that piece.

Because chess would be a pretty boring game if there was just one line that everyone had to play down every game. 

But yeah, if you’re reading an opening book on a specific line, you’re generally going down one very small rabbit hole and it’s just one of many options the opponent could do. 

I agree with the advice to not worry about it for now and stick with the basic principles. 

 

llama47

Part of learning an opening is understanding why the other moves aren't as challenging. A GM hasn't just memorized moves, they understand the position overall. So they'll be able to play well no matter what move you make.

Generally speaking, understanding an opening in this way isn't possible until you're fairly experienced, which is one reason it's extremely common advice to "ignore openings at your rating" (whatever your rating might be).

wornaki

Part of what makes chess so incredibly frustrating at lower levels is that people don't play best moves, so many a time you can't follow traditional opening principles. I think the best solution for that is to play higher rated opponents for a long while and then when you're confident about your abilities, make a new account and start from say... a rating of 1300-1400, when idiotic play is less frequent.

please_can_i_win_a_game

I have a similar problem with the Lessons page.

I don't doubt their usefulness. But the positions they provide are positions that I will never be able to take advantage of because I am never able to reach those positions.

IMKeto
Lurking_Garbage wrote:

I have a similar problem with the Lessons page.

I don't doubt their usefulness. But the positions they provide are positions that I will never be able to take advantage of because I am never able to reach those positions.

What level lessons are you doing?

laurengoodkindchess

Hi! My name is Lauren Goodkind and I’m a respected  chess coach and chess YouTuber based in California: 

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCP5SPSG_sWSYPjqJYMNwL_Q

Here’s an idea to help you get better.  

-Consider all checks and captures on your side and also your opponent’s side. Always as, “If I move here, where is my opponent going to move?”. Do this for every single move!  

-If you are talking about the opening, then focus on developing all your knights and bishops out toward the center.  

I hope that this helps.  

wornaki
edot123 wrote:

well, book moves are, quite simply, the best moves. if people didn't follow them, they would most likely lose...

 Oh, if only that were true...

Jenium
opkkv wrote:

what if your opponent doesn't move that way?

In this case you start playing chess.

antilopetido
Alexito
horsefacer
Happy_toilet wrote:

It makes me furious when my opponent doesn't do what the books say! I saved up for months on a  book on the Ruy Lopez, and my opponent once played the Sicilian! It wasn't fair! I almost flipped the table I was so angry!  What;s the point of me buying a book if my opponent does something unexpected????

EXACTLY!!!!

hrarray
Guys if the opponent doesn’t move as the book says they won’t be playing the best move, so look for tactics to punish them like forks or winning a pawn
aanval22

@hrarray, that is a good strategy. If they don't play a book move, there is probably a reason WHY the move they play is not a book move. Maybe also you could study these other moves when you study your games.

neatgreatfire
mrizzo14 wrote:

Books and lessons generally only discuss your opponent's best 2 or 3 moves. It's not feasible to go into detail on all of your opponent's possible moves. Sometimes you just have to think for yourself. With all due respect, at your level you should not study book moves or theory, as your opponents will constantly play random, innacurate moves.

No they don't. Most of the books on the sicilian are like: Ok so starting at our normal position after 10 moves of theory, here are the 10 things white could play. We will go over each one.