When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal

We shouldn't be commenting on a game still being played.

Just like the jews jkjk

LOL but seriously that's a pretty rude joke (and the Jews were sent to gas chambers btw)

OP either thinks they're doing some clever trolling or they're completely effing insane. This is the second post in two weeks that they've complained like this. The first time I was convinced by OP and others that they were serious, but no one, and I mean NO ONE, is this stupid. To think OP genuinely believes it's not their duty to convert what they call a "winning endgame" (which obviously isn't winning if they can't convert one of the most basic endgames), but that their opponent should "just resign" is mind blowing to me. It's literally the aim of the game.

@wornaki, why should your opponent give you a free win without making you prove that you have the technique to win, especially at your level? Take 5 minutes to learn the endgame and stop with these pathetic cries for attention ffs.

I think it is annoying for players that have completely winning positions for their opponents not to resign. It will happen so get used to it. I feel the same way but they do have a right to do so

I know you werent trying to be rude.....but its still very rude.

Agreed. I can respect them not resigning, but that doesn't mean I have to like it.

Playing for tricks in a losing position is a skill as well. If you resign when you blunder a piece without even trying to swindle, you will be a worse player in the long run. One time I was a piece and a pawn down, my opponent had a knight, a bishop and a pawn. I sacrificed the piece for a pawn as we were both around 1 200-1 300 at the time. That is a lost endgame, but of course he didn't know how to convert. I still haven't learned that checkmate. On the other hand I had a queen for a knight in the endgame (I was in the same rating range), and I was wondering if I could win the position. The opponent flat out resigned and I believe I had around 30% practical chance at that point to win because that ending can be tricky. 

And those are more clear cut examples where you might resign. But a piece or even a rook down when there are many pieces left... you shouldn't resign right away for sure. You may choose to do so later on when the position is more clear cut, but even then, you don't have to.

Amazing post. Your opponent did the right thing, clearly.

Yeah, I mean if he didn't manage to win, it is even more justified, not the other way around.

True

Brief resurrection of this thread by OP. I just blocked my latest opponent, after he confirmed he is the non resigner type. The game that prompted my block was this:

https://chess.com/live/game/5846894777

Next time in find myself in this situation, I will resign myself, send a message (if chat is enabled) saying how disrespectful this is and immediately block them. I wish there was a way to know disrespectful people before playing them. It would make my chess life much easier.

Also, before you tell me (once again) to learn to mate with R and K, I block on principle. If you're the non resigner type, I don't want to play you (unless I know you somehow or the setting is official competition). Life's too short to deal with that kind of chess player. I encourage you ask to do the same with non resigners of the stubborn ilk. Don't let your chess life be filled with people who have such a distorted view of a game.

This game proved that he shouldn't resign. It proved that you should work a bit on basic checkmates. 

I'm entitled to blocking them for being obnoxious. End of story.

The game proved he's obnoxious. He even offered a draw at the beginning of the r+k vs k sequence. Again... I don't care about the result. I couldn't care less about my technique. I do care about playing well mannered opponents. He was not. Hence, he gets blocked.

Thank you. I hope you have a nice life yourself  Also, remember that not everyone takes chess as a way to satisfy the desire to annoy others   Some of us like the game when it's played with well mannered people. Shane it can't always be the case.

It is his time to waste it, and it is your job to prove the advantage. Offering a draw in losing position like that is dubious, for sure. If you were blocking him for that reason, I would understand. Your reasoning, however, is a bit unreasonable, in my humble opinion, as what he did isn't bad at all. It can make a player more resourceful, especially when they are lower rated. I will state my case below. 

I just know that I would be a lot worse today if I resigned at the first sign that I am losing the game. Not only that I have drawn and even won some of that games, but there is a secondary, much more important reason why you shouldn't be mad at someone because they are not resigning early. You would have less experience in endgames, you are less resourceful because you can't find tricky moves etc. if not playing out some bad positions. You don't have to play till mate, but at least for some time, and even till mate if you have the will at lower levels.

There was a game, I had a queen vs a knight endgame, it is completely winning but at that time, I am sure I didn't know how to win (I know now, but I could still mess it up because I had it only once on the board). My opponent just resigned without question, after about 5 seconds in an 1 hour per side game. On the other hand, I sacrificed a piece for opponent's last pawn and played out knight and bishop vs my lone king, and of course he didn't know how to win it, I still don't know that checkmate. 

Learning tricks, stalemate tricks, perpetual checks etc. , is not just important for losing positions, it transposes to other areas of the game.

If you are here just for fun, and don't care about improvement, that is valid, but if that is the case, why writing this post in the first place?

I would say that you would like to better your game. If that is the case, this is not really the way to do so. But of course, you may do as you wish.  If not something else, I am giving you the opportunity to block me right now and not be frustrated in the future if some algorithm decides for us to play a game, as you know my stance on resignation. 

You don't have to resign and you don't have to accept a draw if you don't want to. It is your right to play the way you like. Just don't offer draw offers after every move, don't get in a losing position and make your opponent wait for half an hour, or something else that is obviously not that nice.

 Apart from that, you may play your game as you see fit.