When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal

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wornaki

Also, nice rook and king mate, for whatever's worth it.

OzzieTezz
Strangemover wrote:
wornaki wrote:

If you want to see what I mean by using certain playing styles (including unsound gambits and openings) as a proxy for the detection of annoying players, my latest opponent (from India is a good example). Naturally, I blocked him.

His opening was a nonsense of course, but you didn't really attempt to prove that with how you dealt with it and then you just hung a couple of pieces. Did you let your annoyance affect your focus? 

He played a turd of a game, didn't capitalize by taking control of the centre of the board while his opponent stuffed around on the outer, and then blamed his opponent for his loss on how they played, enough said ..

acceptablecheddar

Your opponent has the right to play whatever he/she wants. They can hang their queen. They can play this offbeat gambit line. They can play 2. Ke2 the bongcloud. They can play whatever they want, if they play something bad, you need to punish them, unlike what you did in that game.

wornaki

A "side effect"...that's the intended result of playing that way. And, of course, you play a3 b4 because you have done extensive analysis and think it's a great line, right?

acceptablecheddar

@GothamChess beat a SuperGM with the a3 Sicilian

wornaki

They can play whatever they want. I'll just block those who, in my opinion, just play that way to annoy their opponent. I don't care about the result of the game or whether or not I "learn" anything from the game. I consider it a breach of the kind of respect I deserve as a player. Playing that way basically shows that, according to them, I don't deserve their best. Well, if I don't deserve their best, they don't deserve playing me.

OzzieTezz
wornaki wrote:

A "side effect"...that's the intended result of playing that way. And, of course, you play a3 b4 because you have done extensive analysis and think it's a great line, right?

You know early on in this thread I kind of understood your point of resigning when the game was lost, I didn't agree with it, but I understood your point. That's now digressed into you dictating how your opponents will play against you and calling out or even blocking those who don't play that way, and that's just plain wrong.

So long as a player is playing within the rules who cares how they play, that's entirely up to them, and how you respond is entirely up to you,

acceptablecheddar

You've been totally lost in some games, why didn't you resign?

acceptablecheddar
wornaki wrote:

They can play whatever they want. I'll just block those who, in my opinion, just play that way to annoy their opponent. I don't care about the result of the game or whether or not I "learn" anything from the game. I consider it a breach of the kind of respect I deserve as a player. Playing that way basically shows that, according to them, I don't deserve their best. Well, if I don't deserve their best, they don't deserve playing me.

They can play WHATEVER THEY WANT. You can't control that, so go on with life

wornaki

The reason I brought the style of play into the fold is simple. I happen to think that the broad term etiquette encompasses playing your best against your opponents. Then again, from my point of view, if you play a certain way, you aren't playing your best and/or you're playing merely to annoy your opponent. That's etiquette to me too. The minute I see people my level playing that way OTB, even in blitz, I'll change my mind. I'll take a seat while I wait.

acceptablecheddar
wornaki wrote:

The reason I brought the style of play into the fold is simple. I happen to think that the broad term etiquette encompasses playing your best against your opponents. Then again, from my point of view, if you play a certain way, you aren't playing your best and/or you're playing merely to annoy your opponent. That's etiquette to me too. The minute I see people my level playing that way OTB, even in blitz, I'll change my mind. I'll take a seat while I wait.

What if they just played an offbeat opening to confuse you and try to get an advantage?

Strangemover

Perhaps @phanindraparashar had been following this thread and thought he could gain a psychological advantage. According to his game explorer he has never before played 1.a5 or 1.h5 against any first move by white, nor has he ever played 1.a4 or 1.h4 with white. 

acceptablecheddar

Maybe

wornaki

Maybe he read this thread, maybe he was told by others about it. Maybe he just felt like playing that way. Who knows and who cares? Certainly not me. He got his win. Kudos to him.

Strangemover

He also has only faced 1.c4 one time so it is possible that he was very unfamiliar and decided to play something random which would mean that you were both in unfamiliar territory. A perfectly valid strategy I might add, notwithstanding that 1.a5 is a poor choice. 

alexchenchess
wornaki wrote:

If you want to see what I mean by using certain playing styles (including unsound gambits and openings) as a proxy for the detection of annoying players, my latest opponent (from India is a good example). Naturally, I blocked him.

NATURALLY?! are u ok in the head

alexchenchess

Want an example of an annoying player? Here: @wornaki 

wornaki

If you think I'm annoying, you can always block me. It's only a couple of clicks away.

wornaki

@strangemover unfamiliar territory is a good phrase. Very apt. If only I could believe that he decided to play a5 because he didn't know what else to do... *eyeroll*

Knightmaster2008

"I could've mated the guy, but I wasn't up for thinking"