Yesterday an opponent I beat in rapid apologized that he didn't resign with just his King left vs Queen and a few pass pawns. So needlessly polite. What is the world coming to!
When to resign - Etiquette - An honest appeal
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May 31, 2021
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#1144
wornaki wrote:
I've recently blocked one player who forced me to mate him R+K vs K, and in the end I didn't (couldn't care). He got his well fought draw and I got to block him.
Well done to your opponent for drawing you fairly. He also got the added bonus of a sore loser blocking him. If you don't want that situation to occur, play chess better.
May 31, 2021
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#1145
Your opponents do not have to resign if they do not want to. I find it annoying when my opponents are down a queen or two and do not resign trying to flag me, but that is part of the game. If you cannot checkmate with a K + R vs a K, that is on you.
May 31, 2021
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#1146
jimmyjetset wrote:
Same thing happened to me
Player made me win RK vs K
I didn’t know how to do it
So I learned
hope the next person does the same thing
That is exactly the approach that all improving players take! Don’t you dare think that I got this (NM) Not Master title for nothing!
Jun 1, 2021
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#1147
Personally, I thank my lucky stars every time I get a chance to mate someone.
Jun 1, 2021
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#1148
I enjoy endgames. I'm often disappointed with how early some opponents resign, even when they've blundered a minor piece like a knight. That's their choice, but learning to fight back when down material is a chess skill that's worth developing. Fighting for a draw is valid. I'm here to learn and develop my chess skills, so I'll resign only when I no longer think I can salvage a draw, or learn anything further from the game. Many opponents have poor endgame skills and aren't able to convert even obviously winning positions, which isn't helped by them or their opponents resigning too early. The only thing I really object to is players rage-quitting or abandoning their game in a losing position without resigning. THAT is poor sportsmanship. Playing to the end is just sport.
Jun 1, 2021
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#1149
Dentangle wrote:
I enjoy endgames. I'm often disappointed with how early some opponents resign, even when they've blundered a minor piece like a knight. That's their choice, but learning to fight back when down material is a chess skill that's worth developing. Fighting for a draw is valid. I'm here to learn and develop my chess skills, so I'll resign only when I no longer think I can salvage a draw, or learn anything further from the game. Many opponents have poor endgame skills and aren't able to convert even obviously winning positions, which isn't helped by them or their opponents resigning too early. The only thing I really object to is players rage-quitting or abandoning their game in a losing position without resigning. THAT is poor sportsmanship. Playing to the end is just sport.
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Kadenstarr wrote:
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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
Mating with a King and Rook versus a King is a requirement with my juniors. Once it becomes second nature they can promote to a Rook rather than a Queen in certain endings with confidence.
There is a big difference between resigning when losing in an Arena tournament but in a match you owe it to your teammates to not resign until the match is decided. Here is a game where I held on a got a draw with the 50 move rule.
Chess: DerekDHarvey vs predadan79 - 326504024 - Chess.com
I think 11 mistakes and 4 blunders is okay for a 128 move game.
Why are these threads even a thing...
Jun 3, 2021
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#1155
MegaGamer15 wrote:
Why are these threads even a thing...
Good question. A question that will never be answered.
Jun 3, 2021
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#1157
Wow. What a long thread on here. Coming from personal experience in OTB games as a Candidate Master, even if it seems that one is losing, I don't think one should resign unless there is completely no hope for redemption. Also, there are factors that one has to take into account when it seems that you are losing (or at least at a significant disadvantage):
[1] Any potential attacking chances or crazy tactics the disadvantaged side has. If you have a good attack going, the person with the advantage could be intimidated by it to the point that they give away free material just to stop the attack.
[2] How long have the players been playing for? (If the person with the advantage has been playing for hours, the person with the advantage could be fatigued or burned out to the point that they can easily screw up their advantage).
[3] How complex is the position? (The more complex the position, the easier it is for the person with the substantial advantage to screw it up and hand it over to the other side).
wornaki wrote:
Follow good etiquette. Acknowledge you're lost, resign and play your next game. If you ever play chess people OTB in either rapid or classical chess and you routinely don't resign obviously lost positions, your social standing in whatever serious chess scene will take a dive.
I totally agree with this. Anytime you refuse to resign in a lost position where you're down material with no compensation you're basically telling your opponent you don't think he's good enough to finish you off. What opponent wouldn't feel offended? OK, maybe an exception would be if your opponent is rated 200-300 points lower in an OTB tournament with prize money at stake you could play on and maybe come back and win but if he's rated higher or about equal it's really time to give it up. At the club I play at players typically resign even in Blitz games if the game appears lost. I remember one time an opponent became irritated with me for not resigning when I had a bad position but was only down a pawn.
Well, what a long thread here. Back when I first learned chess, I remember this being a concern I had, and I asked people if they were okay with me learning the end game by watching them do it, and eventually checkmate me. Watching others is a good way to master checkmates, and most were okay with it. I'm playing chess for the puzzles, more than the ratings (I want to get my mind sharper), so I don't mind if someone makes me draw a game. It's just another good puzzle to watch.
I got to over 1100 in rating once, on another account, so I'm not sure if I'm a beginner (I took up playing again last week), but I'll only resign when all the good puzzles are done with, so if there are still good puzzles to solve in the last part of the game, and if I have any doubts about someone's ability to checkmate, I'll continue it. Do many people sit down and focus on playing just mate-in-one, mate-in-two, etc, puzzles, frequently? I'm betting maybe no.