Why Chess.com Is failing for Beginners (And How It Could Improve)

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but why allow your 'torment' to continue?

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delcai007 wrote: This is exactly the toxic jerk behavior I'm talking about. Hi. DIAF please.
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LiterallyPanda wrote:
nah wrote:

puzzles are the answer the the whole problem here. puzzles start at an entry level, forcing u to think and through discipline and time, you get better. there is no learning curve, because the puzzles adapt to your skill.

Puzzles are not the answer. My rating went from 900 puzzles to 2200 on lichess and I can't break 300 blitz here and my rapid rating is also garbage and never changes. I don't even care anymore, this website has made me despise chess.

Right, so, "I don't suck. Chess.com sucks!"

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LiterallyPanda wrote:
delcai007 wrote: This is exactly the toxic jerk behavior I'm talking about. Hi. DIAF please.

Your original post is 'toxic'. I'm just playing counterpoint.

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Yep I can confirm chess lessons stinks. Don't be that guy don't pay for the premium. Btw, did you find any website with organized content for beginners to grow?

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I just started as a beginner. Here's my observation:

My main issue with chess.com is having to immediately learn all the counters to Scholars Mate.

As a beginner I was hoping to play games making goofy blunders against similar level opponents and learn.

What I got was repeated scholars mate and cheese attacks (Englund, Legal). It's disheartening and then i have to immediately learn those patterns and counters, and prioritize those over learning good early position and piece development.

So we can say 'well cheese players never progress' but that means they all collect down at the beginner levels so they are accumulating there.

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jayinsf wrote:

I just started as a beginner. Here's my observation:

My main issue with chess.com is having to immediately learn all the counters to Scholars Mate.

As a beginner I was hoping to play games making goofy blunders against similar level opponents and learn.

What I got was repeated scholars mate and cheese attacks (Englund, Legal). It's disheartening and then i have to immediately learn those patterns and counters, and prioritize those over learning good early position and piece development.

So we can say 'well cheese players never progress' but that means they all collect down at the beginner levels so they are accumulating there.

That's not really chess.com's fault. Many beginners play goofy ahh opening traps

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jayinsf wrote:

I just started as a beginner. Here's my observation:

My main issue with chess.com is having to immediately learn all the counters to Scholars Mate.

As a beginner I was hoping to play games making goofy blunders against similar level opponents and learn.

What I got was repeated scholars mate and cheese attacks (Englund, Legal). It's disheartening and then i have to immediately learn those patterns and counters, and prioritize those over learning good early position and piece development.

So we can say 'well cheese players never progress' but that means they all collect down at the beginner levels so they are accumulating there.

Why don't you go to lichess and see what they play

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Just_an_average_player136 wrote

Why don't you go to lichess and see what they play

I did and yeah it did a Scholars Mate my first game at the lowest level and it fell for the Russo Gambit and I got the queen lol.

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jayinsf wrote:

I just started as a beginner. Here's my observation:

My main issue with chess.com is having to immediately learn all the counters to Scholars Mate.

As a beginner I was hoping to play games making goofy blunders against similar level opponents and learn.

What I got was repeated scholars mate and cheese attacks (Englund, Legal). It's disheartening and then i have to immediately learn those patterns and counters, and prioritize those over learning good early position and piece development.

So we can say 'well cheese players never progress' but that means they all collect down at the beginner levels so they are accumulating there.

That sounds about right. It’s no different than OTB beginners. They try all the easy wins and tricks, which forces you to learn to defend against them. You’ll face less and less of them when you go against tougher opponents.