If the King was a normal piece, what would its value be?

I SAID I CHANGED MY MIND! And also, in the beginning its queen-like movement is not much use because the board is so crowded. And also, I mean if the King was attacked it's not check, and not checkmate when it can't escape

You're missing the point that the King is a NORMAL piece so IT is ALLOWED to be attacked!

"NM Tonydal: I'll say four shrimps"

[Note: Excuse me for the misconnection between food, chess, and words]

And what do you say the value of a shrimp is? (I bet you're going to say it depends on if it's a passed shrimp, or shrimp wall, or connected passed shrimps, and so on)

I am not sure what is meant by 'normal' but surely you understand that King is not just a piece that moves 1 square linearly and 1 diagonally. (At least I hope so.)

I mean if it can't move it's not stalemate, and if it is attacked it's not check, and if it's trapped it doesn't mean it's checkmate, and so on. Sigh... get someone else to explain for you. Like NM Tonydal

Oh so you were in an ironic mode, sorry that I missed it. Well I guess that we can agree that the King is a 'normal' piece but it is different from all the other pieces in very important ways.

Depends more on the situation.

Actually I disagree, there is no situation in the game where the King will be just another piece without reference to the fact that the goal and end of the game is checkmate.

Actually I disagree, there is no situation in the game where the King will be just another piece without reference to the fact that the goal and end of the game is checkmate.

It depends. How normal? Normal like knight or normal like queen? It would depend of his posibilities. It could be from 3 to 10

3.75

I just had a thought - there may be a situation in which this value is relevant. Say we have a situation vaguely resembling this, with some other stuff on the board:

Black's King may still be on the board, but it is sort of "captured", as it can't leave h8 unless another piece goes over there to help it. Likewise, the pawns and Bishop are somewhat "captured", as the Bishop's movement will allow the King to come back to life and the pawns can't move. Of course, there are other factors involved here, so it's not nearly as pure and the values aren't as accurate as in a real capture. Still, knowing the value of a King could be useful in knowing whether it is beneficial to set this situation up. I know it would be complicated to assess the values of the side factors, but it's just a thought.

Of course, there are situations when the King functions as (active) piece, and it has a relevant value. (I believe that the material value of an active King in the endgame is said to be about 4 points.) But in deciding whether it is beneficial to create a situation such as the above we couldn't go on material values alone, we would have to consider the issues of checkmate and stalemate.

i think about 10. after all, he is a king

If you're trying to be funny, good. It's funny.

If you're serious, then you sound foolish :DD

I have opposed the "crazy queen chess" for centuries, but there is no helping it.

The rook can cut the king off from the rest of the game, so it must be worth less than 5 points.

The king can cover all squares on the board but isn't a distance piece, so it must be in the same ball park as the minor pieces - the old knight versus bishop arguement springs to mind.

It is very powerful in the endgame, especially in supporting pawn advances when a knight can be a little cumbersome trying to cover the relevant squares. It is a pretty heavyweight support piece. It certainly beats the minor pieces in a support role, even if it can't cover ground fast. The way it controls the 3 squares in front simultaneously makes it stronger than the minors.

So it feels like a slower heavy piece, but less than a rook so I would put it down as 4 points.

King is the second strongest piece behind the queen, it should be valued above the rook. But Lasker evaluated it 4-5 pawn units, less than rook.

I would say the king is equivalent to a minor piece , not more. It has a maximum of 8 possible moves, like the knight, and also is not a " long range piece", again like the knight.

A king on the rim has more moves available than a knight. A bishop can dominate a knight in the right position, but not a king. A king, although slower, is more directly manouverable than a knight. So all in all it's worth a bit more.