Illegal Position Contest!

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Ilampozhil25

idk

 

n9531l1

You can always guess.

Ilampozhil25

uhh no since that practically does NOTHING to the position

n9531l1

But you would have a 50% chance of being right. If you don't guess you have no chance.

EvinSung

white to move

Ilampozhil25

ok

8 queens 1 pawn both rooks both bishops 1 knight is blacks material

and the other knight was captured by whites pawn

chamo2074
Ilampozhil25 wrote:

i feel like an idiot now

Dude no previous moves

EvinSung
n9531l1 wrote:
EvinSung wrote:
cobra91 wrote:

Can anyone prove that my position from post #239 is illegal? For convenience, I can transfer the diagram onto the current page:

no previous moves

 

Here's the position. With Black to play, there are plenty of previous moves for White. With White to play, Black has the previous move Pf2xe1=R. Why won't either of those possibilities work to make the position legal?

 

 

Case 1: A dark-squared bishop had to be captured to make it legal for black to promote.

Case 2: 1 pawn has to be exchanged to make it possible for the other pawns to promote,so a N cannot be captured.

Case 3:A R or a Queen capture would result in an illegal check.

n9531l1

Would the position be legal if the h2 rook were on g2?

n9531l1
EvinSung wrote:

white to move [#4976]

Black has at least seven promoted queens. Each pawn starts out blocked by an opposing pawn, so each promotion requires at least one capture by one side or the other. But the two sides are only missing one man between them. It's impossible to have seven promotions with only one available capture.

EvinSung
n9531l1 wrote:

Would the position be legal if the h2 rook were on g2?

white to move illegal black to move legal if h2 rook is on g2

EvinSung
n9531l1 wrote:
EvinSung wrote:

white to move [#4976]

Black has at least seven promoted queens. Each pawn starts out blocked by an opposing pawn, so each promotion requires at least one capture by one side or the other. But the two sides are only missing one man between them. It's impossible to have seven promotions with only one available capture.

one of 2 reasons

n9531l1

And one is enough for an illegality proof. It was also an obvious reason.

EvinSung

white to move

Ilampozhil25

bishop a7

n9531l1

It looks legal to me.  I'll see if I can make a proof game.

Ilampozhil25

yeah my statement was dumb

n9531l1
EvinSung wrote:
n9531l1 wrote:

Would the position [#4968] be legal if the h2 rook were on g2?

white to move illegal black to move legal if h2 rook is on g2

Can you show us a proof game for the legal case?

Ilampozhil25

just ab6 a4 a5 a6 a7 axb8=b ba7 and dc3 cb4

AuroranMelody
n9531l1 wrote:

It looks legal to me.  I'll see if I can make a proof game.

(assuming you're talking about #4985...) isn't this the same illegality as what you were telling Ilampozhil25 about earlier? If it's White to move, then Black just made a move. But Black has no last moves available.