Is this position legal?

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@Arkhimeedes: I changed my mind. It is illegal, because of the reason put forward by Gyryth. I tried to create a game in which the end position would be created, but I got stuck on the a-pawn of white and the h-pawn of black. They can not be captured by a pawn, because that pawn would move to the outside of the board, when all pawn captures center to a shared file. That requires that none of the pawns can capture to the rim of the board. Hence must the a- and h-pawn get captured by a piece or the kings. But that leaves only 8 captures left for the pawns. That is not enough to create the resulting pawn structure.

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So...need someone for a new position...

Avatar of Kiiris_Lummox

Here's one.

 

 

 

 

 

 

And another one I thought of just now:

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Many of you overlook the possibility of promoted food. Arkhimeedes's position is legal.

I'll have a proof game up shortly.

And it is up. The reasoning given about 9 captures apiece needed for the pawns is correct. BUT it is not the case that the edge pawns cannot supply those captures; they can promote and shuffle off to die towards the c-/f-files.

That took a little longer than I thought and is woefully inefficient. But it works.

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Great job!

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Bravo!

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This ought to be published in an article. Wonderful solution. :P

Btw, new puzzle needed.

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Great job, Remellion!

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wow

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#47 : first one (14 knights) : of course... where is the difficulty ?

second one : easy too. You just need to feed the white pawns eight times and end up with four rooks.

 

My turn. Not too hard. Does adding a bishop on c1 change it ?

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remellion :

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@Remellion:

 

I salute you! 

Avatar of Chessgrandmaster2001

Hm...interesting one...

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COOL

Avatar of JamesCorrigan

No.

Avatar of TheMushroomDealer

http://www.chess.com/forum/view/more-puzzles/post-your-puzzles?page=2 #34. This one shows that I acually posted the puzzle and the solution 3 weeks ago and it has been solved by others as well for example http://www.chess.com/forum/view/more-puzzles/is-it-possible---or-impossible.(EDIT: I created that forum but nobody seemed to be interessed in it) @Remellion good job. BTW It can be solved in 40 moves but I haven't yet showed it to anyone.  

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I'm glad that my puzzle finally got the appreciation it deserved. Smile. You guys want to see it be done in 40 moves? 

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@Arkhimeedes: I'll take your word for it that it's possible, but not going to try optimising it myself. Sounds like a fun challenge, but tedious.

@Irontiger: I'm pretty sure it's illegal, with or without the wBc1. Reasoning:

- Obviously bBf8 was captured on f8, h6-bishop must be promoted.
- Only black's h-pawn could've promoted, and needs to make at least 2 captures to dodge the g2/h2 pawns. (Actually 3 captures, since it can't promote on f1 either.
- White is missing 2 pieces. And one of those is the c1-bishop which was captured on c1. Not enough to give to the h-pawn.

Therefore illegal.

Now about this strange position? (A vicious little thing... I hope I didn't make a mistake composing this.)

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wait wasn't the postion different 5 mins ago XD