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mate with rook and knight only

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There is only 1 solution

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that is a help puzzle..     fools mate is shortest for help puzzles

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mate with rook and knight only 

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and whats a help puzzle

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Helpmate puzzles (or generalized to help[whatever] puzzles when the objective is not to mate) are puzzles where both sides cooperate to achieve the objective, which is what you're doing (White and Black cooperate to mate Black).

"Rook and knight" only is not clear, since after all Black's d- and f-pawns, queen, and dark bishop play in the role of blocking other flight squares. However, here's one that you will most likely accept as it uses the same mating pattern:

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vmsfinale wrote:

that is a help puzzle..     fools mate is shortest for help puzzles

 

For White, it's this

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matthew_b_rook wrote:

and whats a help puzzle

a help puzzle is where 1 side plays wrong moves (such puzzles are just to check the shortest possible checkmate or something like that)

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chaotic_iak wrote:
 

you got it

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oh, Interesting