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Punky81

I've enjoyed memorizing games lately. I think it would be neat to learn one from before 1800, preferably before 1600. The games I've looked at are pretty weak. Does anybody have a good recommendations?

vacation4me

The rules have changed over the centuries, so don't expect the same line of play.

Punky81

I'm expecting it to be quite different, but the ones I found were either only the first few moves or just plain terrible playing from one or both sides. I'm just wondering if there is a famous game where thay played pretty well, even if it does look a little goofy to the modern eye.

Punky81

http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1544951

I like this one, but I'm still open to suggestions.

Jion_Wansu

When was castling 1st allowed and enpassant? Do you guys think that a new move will be invented/allowed in modern chess, like promoting a pawn to a king. A player can only have a maximum of 2 kings on the board at once. If a player has 2 kings then one of his kings can move in and out of check and checkmate...

Pelaaja_X
Jion_Wansu wrote:

When was castling 1st allowed and enpassant? Do you guys think that a new move will be invented/allowed in modern chess, like promoting a pawn to a king. A player can only have a maximum of 2 kings on the board at once. If a player has 2 kings then one of his kings can move in and out of check and checkmate...

That won't ever happen. Chess rules have stayed quite stabile for last centuries, and one don't except even minor changes to the rules, not to mention this major ones. 

Something that can change are the variations, like with different starting positions but same rules. Ficher's 960 chess for example, is relatively new. Imo, the main rules will stay. 

Punky81

Let's please stay on topic.

matthew_b_rook
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vacation4me
Jion_Wansu wrote:

When was castling 1st allowed and enpassant? Do you guys think that a new move will be invented/allowed in modern chess, like promoting a pawn to a king. A player can only have a maximum of 2 kings on the board at once. If a player has 2 kings then one of his kings can move in and out of check and checkmate...

I've heard chatter about castling while you are in check.

vacation4me

I don't know if I want to play with two kings... two queens -- YES!

matthew_b_rook

http://www.chess.com/echess/game?id=96265202

Jion_Wansu

did you know that your king can checkmate the opponent's king

pepppers
Jion_Wansu wrote:

When was castling 1st allowed and enpassant? Do you guys think that a new move will be invented/allowed in modern chess, like promoting a pawn to a king. A player can only have a maximum of 2 kings on the board at once. If a player has 2 kings then one of his kings can move in and out of check and checkmate...

There are some regional variations that persist to this day. When my father, who is an excellent player, taught me how to play chess he said that for the first move, both players can move two pawns forward, at once, by one square. He also doesn't recognise en passant. 

No chance of these variations being recognised by the federation, and rightly so. There must be thousands of variations like the one I described above. Recognising them all would make the game too chaotic.  

Jion_Wansu
Jion_Wansu wrote:

did you know that your king can checkmate the opponent's king

but this still works today, legally...