Engine missevaluation?

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Good day everyone,

I have a question regarding the game above.

The move 54. f8=Q is perceived by the engine as a blunder, and it drops the evaluation of the position to +0.38, even though, as far as I can analyse, it is completely winning for white; am I missing something here?

(do avoid looking too deeply into other parts of the game for your own sake sad.png )

(p.s. the line 56.Kg7? is what's suggested by the engine)

 

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Mikoaj_W wrote:
 

The move 54. f8=Q is perceived by the engine as a blunder, and it drops the evaluation of the position to +0.38, even though, as far as I can analyse, it is completely winning for white; am I missing something here?

54. f8=Q ... is completely winning for White. What engine is telling you it's not?

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Chess.com's analysis engine agrees 54. f8=Q is completely winning for White.

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UnsoundlyOutOfBook wrote:

Chess.com's analysis engine agrees 54. f8=Q is completely winning for White.

 

 

chess.com engine analysis

the move shifts the eval to +0.38, even though every continuation suggested by the engine is completely winning. I am baffled.

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Mikoaj_W wrote:
UnsoundlyOutOfBook wrote:

Chess.com's analysis engine agrees 54. f8=Q is completely winning for White.

 

 

 

chess.com engine analysis

the move shifts the eval to +0.38, even though every continuation suggested by the engine is completely winning. I am baffled.

The Engine analysis is correct to my understanding. after Rxf8 Kxf8 kh1  Ke7 h2, wherever white mives except for rook stalemates. after white moves rook out of g-file, Kg7 threatens promotion, it would be a draw.

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Mikoaj_W wrote:

the move shifts the eval to +0.38, even though every continuation suggested by the engine is completely winning. I am baffled.

You are getting an inaccurate assessment because the analysis depth is set to only 10, which is a fairly severe handicap. You should increase the analysis depth for better results.

The picture I posted is Chess.com's analysis engine at a higher depth. The limited 18-ply Chess.com post-game analysis function also concludes the move is completely winning. 

 

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Is the king+pawn endgame winning?

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IHaveTHECoronaVirus wrote:

The Engine analysis is correct to my understanding. after Rxf8 Kxf8 kh1  Ke7 h2, wherever white mives except for rook stalemates. after white moves rook out of g-file, Kg7 threatens promotion, it would be a draw.

I do not think the position is a draw. White will eventually move the Rook to the h-file and sacrifice it when Black tries to promote the pawn. White’s King will then win the race to support the promotion of the d3 pawn. 

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UnsoundlyOutOfBook wrote:
Mikoaj_W wrote:

the move shifts the eval to +0.38, even though every continuation suggested by the engine is completely winning. I am baffled.

You are getting an inaccurate assessment because the analysis depth is set to only 10, which is a fairly severe handicap. You should increase the analysis depth for better results.

The picture I posted is Chess.com's analysis engine at a higher depth. The limited 18-ply Chess.com post-game analysis function also concludes the move is completely winning. 

 

 

I see, it does seem rather obvious now.

Thank you for the answer happy.png

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IHaveTHECoronaVirus wrote:

Is the king+pawn endgame winning?

The way the game finished, the white rook was sacrificed for the promoted queen on h1 and the black king was too slow to return.