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nope missed that, sorry.

maybe there is time to play Kh8 then e5, then b6, Bb7 etc

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There is a difference between a GM "illogical" move and a normal player "illogical" move. A GM has generally an excellent reason to play that move, and that reason is beyond our understanding. However when a normal player plays an "illogical" move, there might be two cases: either he has a good reason, and once he explained that reason the move is not "illogical" anymore (if we understand the logic in the reason), or the move may not be part of a reasoning, and is therefore really illogical.

If a GM plays beyond your understanding of chess, of course you cannot blame his move. If a player plays within your understanding of chess, and it appears to you that even after he explained his move it is still illogical, then the move is bad for every player from the beginner until your level. It might prove strong at a higher level, but the player who played it did not play it at a higher level (otherwise he should be able to explain it).

In fact, to me, the same move played with different minds has not the same value. As an analogy, if two persons are learning to walk. The first one moves his left-foot forward, with the idea of moving it forward a second time, and the second one moves his left foot forward once, willing to move his right foot forward next. There is a big difference. The first one is going nowhere when the second one will go everywhere. However, both of them will have done the same thing when we are talking (moved only the left foot forward). Which means that, to me, the same action does not allways have the same value. You can point out that the first one did something stupid after moving his left foot once, and you can point out that the second one did something smart when he did the very same thing.

This is at least my point of view. I am aware of the fact that you may want to say that anyone can have the opportunity of doing good things, and that you can't say one person did something stupid until it really proved to be stupid. However if you don't correct the habit of doing something without thinking only to wake up once your in front of the problem, you will never improve as much as you could. This is only my opinion as well, on why I think it is good to differenciate the two cases.

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@DoigteurFou:

I agree completely with the point about the value of moves, but the value of moves played with different "minds" is something I will do not concede, because you could have a 1200 player with exactly the same intentions as a GM, and the same plans.

In the world of chess, for example, a group of voters automatically vote for the move that the 1200 "rated" player did not want to make on the grounds that since he/she is illogical then the other move "must" be logical - the premise is false.

Of course the point is that a move made within a split second is not comparable to a move made after hours of careful analysis, or in some positions for the case of a GM, 10 minutes of careful analysis.