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I don't how I could play so awful in the end of the game.

Because after Queens exchange I had a good position and I was sure that the draw was "in my pocket". 

All in this game seemed so "tic-tack" for me... but then suddenly it turned into the real catastrofy on the board.

What was I doing wrong again in your opinion in the end of this game https://www.chess.com/live/game/3709934591 ?

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I think c4 is not good.

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scrabblechecs написал:

I think c4 is not good.

Ok... Thank you... I will be thinking over my c4.

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Maybe it was a fatal mistake... When I played in the end of the game, I constantly felt that my moves are not ones that should be in this position.

Maybe I should move other pawns ahead... not c-pawn... I don't know.

 

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These Rooks-endings are so complicated. (((((

Only Chess player with high rating can play them well.

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Actually, you played very well for your rating.  c4 is not a game-losing error.  It turns a position of advantage to one that is equal.  You can beat a higher rated player inthe ending---not because of his rating but because certain endings are dead lost for anyone, such as an outside passed pawn, in a king and pawn ending, but you have to study it to know how to win it or be really good at analysis.

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35.g5 is an easy win for white- no?

Of course white would love returning his extra pawn to exchange rooks, and get the king and pawn ending where he possesses the allmighty outside passed h-pawn.

Why should you allow your opponent the luxury of blockading your passed g-pawn with his king?

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I'm not keen on the decision to exchange queens in the first place - seems like your g and h pawns will be much harder to stop with Q's on - there isn't a pressing need to simplify as you're not in any danger of getting attacked/mated even with Q's on.

 

Edit: wrote this before i saw post #7: There were probably some improvements early in the R ending - once he had the position with his K on g6 and R on h4 it's probably drawn as you can't easily break his blockade and there as not actually too many constructive moves.

 

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JamesColeman έγραψε:

I'm not keen on the decision to exchange queens in the first place - seems like your g and h pawns will be much harder to stop with Q's on - there isn't a pressing need to simplify as you're not in any danger of getting attacked/mated even with Q's on.

 

Edit: wrote this before i saw post #7: There were probably some improvements early in the R ending - once he had the position with his K on g6 and R on h4 it's probably drawn as you can't easily break his blockade and there as not actually too many constructive moves.

 

 

Once Black's king was allowed to reach f6, white should insist on his plan of centralizing the king with 37.Kd3, which does look like winning to me. 37.g5+? was very ill-timed- it just allowed Black's rook to stop the king march via ...Rh4.

And of course, even 34.Rg2 is not necessary yet. Pushing that g-pawn a bit down immediately (34.g5) looks preferable.

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Yes, agreed, both of those look like very clear improvements on the game continuation.

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Nwap111 wrote:

Actually, you played very well for your rating.  c4 is not a game-losing error.  It turns a position of advantage to one that is equal. 

 

You can beat a higher rated player in the ending---not because of his rating but because certain endings are dead lost for anyone, such as an outside passed pawn, in a king and pawn ending,

but you have to study it to know how to win it or be really good at analysis.

Oh... thank you !

Yours is very useful advise for me. I decide I will be studing the standard endings in Chess then. Really I decide I do... ))

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pfren написал:

35.g5 is an easy win for white- no?

Of course white would love returning his extra pawn to exchange rooks, and get the king and pawn ending where he possesses the allmighty outside passed h-pawn.

Why should you allow your opponent the luxury of blockading your passed g-pawn with his king?

Hmm... I understand. It was my mistake too.. ((

My playing in the end of the game much disappointed me. I felt myself be even depressed during two or three hours after... I thought maybe it's worth for me to stop playing Chess at all.. if I am so "goofy". 

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JamesColeman написал:

I'm not keen on the decision to exchange queens in the first place - seems like your g and h pawns will be much harder to stop with Q's on - there isn't a pressing need to simplify as you're not in any danger of getting attacked/mated even with Q's on.

 

 

 

James, ok. I see... now. If there is not much need for Qs exchange, it's better not to do it...

It is difficult without Queen to push your pawns forward...  isn't ?

Thanks for your notice.

 

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pfren написал:
JamesColeman έγραψε:

I'm not keen on the decision to exchange queens in the first place - seems like your g and h pawns will be much harder to stop with Q's on - there isn't a pressing need to simplify as you're not in any danger of getting attacked/mated even with Q's on.

 

Edit: wrote this before i saw post #7: There were probably some improvements early in the R ending - once he had the position with his K on g6 and R on h4 it's probably drawn as you can't easily break his blockade and there as not actually too many constructive moves.

 

 

Once Black's king was allowed to reach f6, white should insist on his plan of centralizing the king with 37.Kd3, which does look like winning to me. 37.g5+? was very ill-timed- it just allowed Black's rook to stop the king march via ...Rh4.

And of course, even 34.Rg2 is not necessary yet. Pushing that g-pawn a bit down immediately (34.g5) looks preferable.

Yeah... I see. (( 

Your detailed analysis... I hope... helps me. 

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pfren написал:

35.g5 is an easy win for white- no?

 

pfren, in that moment I decided that if I made 35. g5 move, he could easy to stop my g-pawn with his King that was very near to my g-pawn... and with his Rook...

Then he could eat my pawn with his Rook... and that would be all hopes good bye for me. ))

So I decided that instead of 35. g5 move... I should activate my King... and push King forward to help my g-pawn.

But now it seems to me that you are quite right... and that was my mistake.

Let him eat my pawn with his Rook... then I could make Rooks exchange in that case... and I had my h-pawn and very active King... So maybe it was a draw for me... or even something better. ))

Am I right in my possible position visualizations ?

 

 

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I think the sort of... what to call it... beginner method of winning it, just walking the king to the g file starting with 34.Kc1 is good to point out too.

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It's funny, my engine doesn't initially realize this is bad for black.

 

 

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pfren написал:

And of course, even 34.Rg2 is not necessary yet. Pushing that g-pawn a bit down immediately (34.g5) looks preferable.

Oh yes !  34. Rg2 was so silly move !  (((

I could simply keep my g-pawn going forward !

 

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llamonade написал:

It's funny, my engine doesn't initially realize this is bad for black.

 

 

??  How could it be ?

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Anatoly1934 wrote:
llamonade написал:

It's funny, my engine doesn't initially realize this is bad for black.

 

 

??  

Does that mean you think it's obvious how white should win and you don't know why my engine doesn't see it right away, or does it mean you don't know how white wins?