HOW IS THIS NOT A BRILLIANT MOVE??????

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This is the game: Check out this #chess game: iamsupershane vs PawnsGambit003 - https://www.chess.com/game/108082789754

Move 22 was SACKING THE BISHOP (pinning the queen to the king) for a checkmate. How is this not brilliant? Please answer.

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Idk

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Maybe it’s a bit too obvious, but I’m not sure how a computer would judge that
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Hmm
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I was searching for topics just like this one when I stumbled across this one.

This one isn't even obvious! Chess.com please fix this!!??
 
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iamsupershane wrote:

This is the game: Check out this #chess game: iamsupershane vs PawnsGambit003 - https://www.chess.com/game/108082789754

Move 22 was SACKING THE BISHOP (pinning the queen to the king) for a checkmate. How is this not brilliant? Please answer.

Wait actually, its a simple tactic. There is no sacrifice in it so, it didn't get considered.
But this often happens in other games! actually. Like in #5.

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xtreme2020 wrote:
Maybe it’s a bit too obvious, but I’m not sure how a computer would judge that

It won't. Being "obvious" is not a disqualifying factor, most tactical tricks are obvious to an engine.

The thing here is that white is overwhelmingly winning. Every reasonable move is at least +10. The Bb5 trick is nice and it's the best move, but when every move wins, the script doesn't award the "brilliant" label.

On the other hand, whether chess.com calls it "brilliant" or not is entirely meaningless.

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Ok, so it has to be a sacrifice and the only good move?
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xtreme2020 wrote:
Ok, so it has to be a sacrifice and the only good move?

It has to be the a sacrifice, yes. But it doesn't have to be the best move. Sometimes even some completely nonsensical moves are considered "brilliant" by the dumb script. As long as it's a sacrifice and it's not bad, it potentially qualifies. But the true definition is much more complicated, also factoring in rating and who knows what else.

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Is it really a sacrifice? You're just trading a bishop for a bishop. In tactical terms, you're not only pinning the queen, but if your opponent takes the bait, you're removing the defender.

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woton wrote:

Is it really a sacrifice? You're just trading a bishop for a bishop. In tactical terms, you're not only pinning the queen, but if your opponent takes the bait, you're removing the defender.

It's not really a sacrifice, but a simplistic computer program has no way to judge that.

Remember, giving the "brilliant" label has nothing to do with Stockfish or any other engine. Engines don't do that. It is done by a program that some chess.com developer wrote.

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I'm pretty sure it's not a brilliant move as if the position is already winning, a sacrifice still does not count as brilliant, as long as there is at least one other move that makes the position still winning, where in this case practically any non blunder is still winning.

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oh alright thanks!

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JustALifeOfChess wrote:

I was searching for topics just like this one when I stumbled across this one.

This one isn't even obvious! Chess.com please fix this!!??
 

What about this? #5.