Are "Brilliant moves" in computer analysis just any decent sacrifice now?

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Regarding so-called brilliant moves on this site, they do not have to be hard to find and they do not have to be the only winning move. Sometimes they are obviously forced but they usually seem to involve a sacrifice. It's been gone into in some depth on various threads and anyone thinking they are actually difficult to find is mistaken.

They are not objectively assessed, since it is more likely to be awarded to a weaker player than a stronger one, given the same position. It also seems that it's more likely to be awarded to a weaker player AFTER that player has made some pretty horrific mistakes in the same game. This means that it's to compensate their feelings for having had to come to terms with the terrible fact that the computer assessed their previous moves as blunders. It bears little relationship to good play and it is a sales gimmick.

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rfc_adam wrote:

I got a brilliant move for this, does anyone agree with that?


Had to look at this for a couple of minutes. The trickiest continuation is Nxb2, since each of the other captures look immediately bad for white. I think it IS quite difficult and really is a very good move.

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^^ That's quite good isn't it.

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Although it isn't easy to find the forced mate, winning the queen is natural because you do it with check and it's the right move, so that does make it easier to find.

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They are somewhat rare, depending on your level of understanding and skill at the game though they can be pretty easy to get if you are incredibly experienced

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I got a brilliant move for something that was super obvious and easy to see—weird.

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KingOfThePawn03 wrote:

I got a brilliant move for something that was super obvious and easy to see—weird.

It was the only good move, and it led to a forced checkmate in which the opponent couldn't escape.

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GMatchen wrote:

It gave me a "!!" for a simple move. Perhaps b/c most people would just try and check with the Q? And this was a Daily Chess game!

 

you got this becuase after this move queen to f2 its a checkmate

 

 

 

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As far as I'm aware, a brilliant move constitutes a sacrifice which gives you a winning position. My first (and only recorded) brilliant move so far was Qxc1 in the picture below, winning a rook and forcing a queen trade. I don't think it necessarily means that the move you played is an extremely hard move to find as I found this one relatively easily as a 700 rapid player.

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can you send the line?

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I see qxc1, nxc1, rxc1, which is -3, caprture the pawn , then still -2

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oh nvm I checked the actual game on ur account so yeah that was a good move +3

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 I'm still new to chess so I'm not exactly sure what you mean, but if you mean the moves played right before and after the brilliant move, then here it is:

Nxb3 ?!, Rac1 ??, Qxc1 !!, Rxc1 ?!, Nxd2

Here's the match if you want to check it for yourself, move 23 is when it all starts happening.

https://www.chess.com/game/live/71330797059

Also missed 2 mate-in-ones that match but I won it in the end

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I have a friend who got a brilliant just for taking out a queen with a knight. And the knight was taken right after with nothing guarding it so I have no idea how you get one.

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unbeatable209 wrote:

As far as I'm aware, a brilliant move constitutes a sacrifice which gives you a winning position. My first (and only recorded) brilliant move so far was Qxc1 in the picture below, winning a rook and forcing a queen trade. I don't think it necessarily means that the move you played is an extremely hard move to find as I found this one relatively easily as a 700 rapid player.

 

The queen trade was not "forced" but it would be the best move without the opponent gaining a losing position.

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francis20110 wrote:

Firstly I had never seen any in any of my games, I then went through a fair number of master games and never saw any there either!

I only get one or two per day. 36 in the past month in my rapid games.

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I've got a brilliant move😛

Avatar of ArthurEZiegler

Brilliant moves are rare, but out of the 87 games I played I have 8 brilliant moves! Interesting that some players rated much higher and have more games played may have only a single brilliant move. Perhaps because I play Daily chess where I have time to analyse and look for tricky moves. 

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I got one for a wayward queen attack against a bot so