My first drawn game against a 2000 rated + player... Analysis and comments on game are more than wel

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Knightpin

This is a game I played against Jamesbond_007 which ended in a draw. I am not sure if it is a draw position. But what I know is I could have played better. We both made mistakes in this game, and I am counting you members to help me analyze my games and comment on what moves I could have done to play better. Thanks.

onisimus

yay, let's break out the bubbly and celebrate!!!

Knightpin

thanks.

TonightOnly

I don't know if you realized this, but your diagram is wrong. I am assuming that you messed up and hit the 'back' button. In the diagram editor, this creates a new variation, it doesn't delete the last entered move. If you want to see a tutorial, click on the blue question mark in the top right of your dialogue box.

contrivial

I tried to follow the game, but it only played out until move 12. Maybe I'll see if I can find it on your profile and follow it through. I'm not that good, but even up to this point, I see some things I would have done different. Maybe that's why I'm not as highly rated as you guys :)...

contrivial

ps- (re TonightOnly) wouldnt it be easier to put a link to the game or analysis board?

Knightpin

oops sorry im going to fix it.

JG27Pyth

Color me stupid, but i don't see the draw in the final position (go to the move list and continue along the variation after you stop at move 12) ... I mean... maybe it's a theoretical draw... or maybe there's some repetitition that I don't see... but I'd think you'd want to play on... it was a draw by agreement... who offered?  When a higher rated player offers a lower rated player a draw, he's thinks he's losing, count on it.

Knightpin

so everyone I update the game, so can you guys help me look at the game again and analyze it.

pvmike

Your opponent play an odd line in the two Knights defense normally 6.c3 is meet by 6...b5, which to leads really sharpe and tactical positions.

donngerard

nice

Upsetter

Two Knights' Defense.  Black plays 6...Nf5 whereupon 7.Qe2 (instead of d4) would have put the knight move to the test: 7...Bd6 8.d3 with a solid advantage for White.  Black proceeds to pass on a couple of win attempts (e.g. 18...0-0-0 and 24...Bc7) and the draw is achieved rather amusingly (30...Rxd6 31.exd6, Re6 32. d7, Rd6 33.Rxb5, Rxd7 has to be dead even).

Knightpin

thanks upsetter for your comment.

Upsetter

Glad to help!

melzerh

Cool

maximus_dragon

eh white might have won if you played on

billwall

6.c3 Nf5 was first played by masters in the game Pema-Treybal, Brno 1907 in which White continued with 7.Qe2.  Here, White continued with 7.d4, which isn't bad and can lead to a few known traps.  After 7.d4 exd4 (7...e4 has also been played), White should just play 8.O-O (although 8.Qe2+ can also be played).  8.cxd4 is too weak and passive for White.  After 8.O-O, if 8...dxc3, then 9.d6! favors White.  If 8...Nxd5, then 9.Re1+ favors White.  In the game, after 8.cxd4 Black played 8...Qe7+.  Better seems to be 8...Bb4+, then 9...Qe7+.  Now, after 8...Qe7+, White played 9.Be3?!  White should play 9.Be2, then 10.O-O or 10.Nc3.  White is playing too passive.  Now Black played 9...Qb4+?! but it looks like Black is winning after 9...Nxe3 10.fxe3 Qxe3+.   In the game, Black played 9...Qb4+ 10.Nbd2 h6 11.Ngf3 Qxb2?!  Best for Black seems 11...Bd6.  Now White played 12.Rb1?! when he should have played 12.O-O and 13.Bb3 and try to trap the Queen.    After 12.Rb1 Qa3, now White played 13.Qb3?! instead of 13.O-O and 14.Re1 with perhaps a better game.  Now 13.Qb3 Qxb3 14.Bxb3 Bd6 15.Ba4+?!.  Better may be 15.Nc4 to get the knight better placed.  The White Bishop was fine where it was.  Now 15.Ba4+ Bd7 16.Bxd7+ Nxd7 17.O-O?!  I think White can survive with 17.Rxb7 Nb6 18.Ne5 and at least equal or better.   Now 17.O-O Nb6 18.Rfe1.  Slightly better seems 18.Ne5, putting the knight in the center of the board.  Finally, 18.Rfe1 O-O 19.Ne4 Rab8 20.Nc3?! wasting tempo.  Time to attack with 20.g4.  The rest of the game looks drawish after this.

Upsetter

Nice research on Two Knights'.  Thank you.  I was unaware of the 1907 game.