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Looking for opinions on the b

asics here. Opening play, general play, etc.


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Also 20 Nd5 looks stronger than 20 Nxe6. It keeps more threats in reserve and doesn't show your hand right away.
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The capture was forced. I was in Check.
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Wouldn't he just capture the Knight with the pawn on e6?
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carealestate, at move 16 white is in check. Taking the knight is the only way to save the queen.

 

I think white's setup is not optimal. Compare white's position to a typical King's Indian Attack. White doesn't play a knight to c3, rather to d2 and a pawn to c3. This is the way GMs play the KIA. 

 

Your position would be a lot more sturdy if you could keep black's knight out of d4 and swing your second knight over to f3. 


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20. Nxe6+ ?? Throws away a knight for a pawn with no compensation
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21. Rexe6 is the better move isn't it. Not Nce4.
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13. e5 doesn't seem like the right idea. White would welcome a trade along the long light squared diagonal, why release the tension prematurely?


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No, I think Nce4 is better. You will have more problems after 21 Rxe6 dxc3. Capturing 22 bxc3 is not very good because of ...Qxc3 and your rook is hanging, and you have no initiative for the lost material.

And nevermind about my first comment.  


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3. g3?  Why?  3. d4 is better, no matter how much you hate the Sicilian lines, there are better options to avoiding it than this kind of switch into the KIA.  Just because Fischer did it, doesn't mean you should.

 

6. e3 is better in most continuations I believe.  You want to develop the Knight to d2 very often. 

 

8. Bg5?! Better is the quieter Be3 attacking the pawn, preventing ... d5! which is what he should have played, trouncing your center.

 

10. ... Nd4 should be all but lights out! 11. Nd5! Qxd2?? (Qd8? 12. Nxd4 cxd4 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nxe7 Qxe7 15. f4! Start the attack with no opposition) 12. Nxe7+ Kh8 13. Bxg7 Kxg7 14. Nxd2, up material, position and have ample opportunity to abuse both.

 

12. Ng5 is bad.  ... h6 and toss them a key tempo.

 

13. exd5 is better, opens the e file for your rook, that new d5 pawn after exd5 is stuck and a huge target.

15. Nh3?! Why? 15. f4 is much better.

 

17. Nf4!  You lock his Rook in!  Now he has to play super aggressive and push you out hard before he loses the exchange or the full Rook.

 

19 ... Nd4 and you lose material.  He makes a lot of poor plays that kept you in the game.

 

20. Ne4! If you made that move first you'd be in a solid position with tons of threats. Your move was obviously pretty terrible.

 

21, Ne4 is actually the best move you can make.  Don't throw more material at him for free!  He stomps you with dxc3 (22. bxc3 Qxc3 23. Rc1, he's way ahead).

 

Great play at 23!  You had a fighting chance here.

 

26. g4?  And you toss him material right back.  Threatening pieces like that is a terrible habit.  What follow up did you have?

 

27 ... Qxb2 and you are back behind again.

 

I am just gonna let the rest slide.  You know what happened there.

 

 

 

 


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I am not doing it because Fischer did it. It was suggested to me that since I am kind of new to chess that I should learn KIA. Is there something better for a 800-1100 ranked player?

The rest of your comments are very helpful. Thank you very much for the time you put into your post.


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I would suggest that if you want to play KIA that you learn more than the first couple of moves. I wouldn't suggest learning a ton of variations, but at least learn the basic pawn structure and how your pieces fit into it. Otherwise you wind up with a cramped or inflexible position.
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The basics of chess is to checkmate the others King, get on with it!
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Loomis wrote: I would suggest that if you want to play KIA that you learn more than the first couple of moves. I wouldn't suggest learning a ton of variations, but at least learn the basic pawn structure and how your pieces fit into it. Otherwise you wind up with a cramped or inflexible position.

 Do you know of a place online that would take me through the main line of the KIA? Everything so far that I found gives me the first 3-7 moves but nothing else.

 Thanks to all who have posted constructive critism as well as helpful advice!


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Look at a handful of GM games with the KIA. You should be able to find plenty at chessgames.com.

 

Also, there is no formula for playing good opening moves. Some stuff you just have to figure out. For example, if you look at the game you posted, the opponent's knight on d4  makes a lot of trouble for you, so playing a pawn to c3 would have been good. The pin on your knight on c3 is also a pain and that knight isn't really doing anything there. So Nd2 is an idea worth remembering. 


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Seems as though the King's Indian Attack: Sicilian Variation is a very popular choice.