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yoshtodd

I'm playing as black.

This game frustrated me so much... The guy did the pawn sacs in Danish gambit, in addition to that I even won a rook for a knight, but then he started attacking my king and I lost everything I'd gained. Need help with how I should have been thinking.

Zerrogi

15...Kb8 may have lost you a tempo, slightly.

Truthfully, I probably would have played 15...Nf6 to get some more material out there, or perhaps 15...f5(with ideas of gaining some space and power over the Kingside.)

But, if you wanted, 15...a6 is playable.   


Zerrogi
Cool game, btw
Thunersee
By move 5 you've taken 3 of his pawns but you're way behind in development.  It's not all counting points and pieces taken.  Since he took your only advanced piece, he's got his queen and two bishops in play and you have nothing.  By the time you sac'd your knight for a rook, he had 6 pieces in play (queen, two bishops, two knights, rook) and you had 3 (queen, bishop, rook, and you could argue that the black bishop was in play).
yoshtodd
bvangunten wrote: By move 5 you've taken 3 of his pawns but you're way behind in development.  It's not all counting points and pieces taken.  Since he took your only advanced piece, he's got his queen and two bishops in play and you have nothing.  By the time you sac'd your knight for a rook, he had 6 pieces in play (queen, two bishops, two knights, rook) and you had 3 (queen, bishop, rook, and you could argue that the black bishop was in play).

 Yeah after light bishop trade, he had 5 pieces in play and I had 3 (if we count bishop on back rank). So that's a good observation, I probably should have brought knight into play instead of moving king... I got so focused on his possible attacks on my king that I felt any developing move was going to lose tempo and let him execute some tactical barrages (which happened anyway). So yeah guess I should have developed my knight..


yoshtodd
Zerrogi wrote:

15...Kb8 may have lost you a tempo, slightly.

Truthfully, I probably would have played 15...Nf6 to get some more material out there, or perhaps 15...f5(with ideas of gaining some space and power over the Kingside.)

But, if you wanted, 15...a6 is playable.   


 Those suggestions all look good thanks for taking the time.


kaos2008

hey buddy...

please have a look at the movelist where I have placed variations u might find interesting. 

CORRECTION...

On move 15 I meant 15.....f6 aiming to meet Nb5 with c6 

I have annotated your game and changed some of your comments...

good game by the way... 


TwoMove

Hello,

In general don't like giving opponent attack for pawn(s) in opening, and prefer rapid development, if given a choice. In most of the more  off-beat 1.e4 e5 lines black can aim for to equalise by playing d5. Kaos2008 gave you one such line.  Another such is 1.e4 e5 2d4 pxp 3.c3 Qe7 with ideas of if 4pxp Qxpch, and if 4Bd3 d5. (Note this Qe7 idea does not work so well with move-orders where Nf3, and Nc6 have been played).

Bye JohnS 


johnnyies
why didn't you take the hanging bishop at c4 in moves 9-10?
TwoMove
10 ...BXB 11pxd6 is a bit of problem. My impression is white didn't really know any theory, but just putting his peices on active squares caused black tremendous headaches.
santiR

your queen was out of the battle the whole way, and if you had moved it you could have survived, and brought out your other bishop. also, you moved your knight way too many times.

 


erastusk
I still don't see why taking that hanging bishop at 9-10 is not a good move
yoshtodd
erastusk wrote: I still don't see why taking that hanging bishop at 9-10 is not a good move

 Because exd6 and my queen is pinned to king by the white rook and also attacked by pawn. If I take rook he takes back with check so I have to move king because that pawn prevents blocking with knight or bishop.


yoshtodd
kaos2008 wrote:

hey buddy...

please have a look at the movelist where I have placed variations u might find interesting. 

CORRECTION...

On move 15 I meant 15.....f6 aiming to meet Nb5 with c6 

I have annotated your game and changed some of your comments...

good game by the way... 


 Wow thanks so much that was really helpful. I posted the knight at d5 just out of memory of this opening from a Fred Reinfield book... I should probably figure out why the moves are made instead of memorizing blindly (just remembered he said the knight on that square is key to holding off white counterattack). Thanks for the variations I liked the d5 in the opening. I get scared with the e file open and my king not even close to castling yet, but I'll try that move next time I face this opening.


ADK

NICE GAME, A FEW ERRORS THOUGH...

ADK 


Zerrogi
yoshtodd wrote: Zerrogi wrote:

15...Kb8 may have lost you a tempo, slightly.

Truthfully, I probably would have played 15...Nf6 to get some more material out there, or perhaps 15...f5(with ideas of gaining some space and power over the Kingside.)

But, if you wanted, 15...a6 is playable.   


 Those suggestions all look good thanks for taking the time.


 No prob, manLaughing


ChessBookBastion

You were doing decently up until 18...Nd5??.  You should have played something more like 18...Qd7.  Always try and keep your opponent away from prying open your King cage through sacrifice.  Better yet, keep those horses back!  ;)


RELee1863
ouch things went downhill pretty fast, 15.Kb8 I did not like and 13Nxc1 should have been 13Nxe1, but I won't be much of a critic so thats where I will end