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justice_avocado

so here's a 10 0 minute blitz in which my opponent used an opening i haven't yet played against. i will never forgive him.

what made his opening so strong? was it simply because i'm not familiar with it? or has he found the elusive golden key? i only ask because this is the first game i've ever lost.

(to those of you who tend to take things too seriously: that last bit was a [very sarcastic] joke. i have lost many a game, often to six-year-olds and farm animals.)

 


FlairPhoenix
Interesting...I see why he resigned but why are getting all worked-up over a game?
Zerrogi

3...Qe7 is pretty limiting.  It's playable, but it limits that dark squared Bishop for a while.  Play 3...g6, allowing a fianchettoed Bishop, and a lovely gained tempo. 

Playing the Queen out so early just creates a target in most games.  Just know how to scare her away and earn some tempo in the process and you'll be fine. 


Bsr
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bigmac30
interesting you tryed to bluntly get scolars mate and because of the way he delt with it he was allways out of positon it is why i am trying to read up on traps because if they see it they genarally put their peices on bad sqares
bigmac30
interesting you tryed to bluntly get scolars mate and because of the way he delt with it he was allways out of positon it is why i am trying to read up on traps because if they see it they genarally put their peices on bad sqares  and therefore struggle to kkeep up
lanceuppercut_239

White's opening was, frankly, awful. It's a trick beginners often try though. Here's how you deal with it:


justice_avocado
Zerrogi, kamapuaa, lanceuppercut_239: you are wise. thank you very much. i have learned a good deal from your contributions.
santiR
Bxh2 is normally not a good idea, because he can trap your bishop with g3. if he was better he would have done that.
Chiaro2di2luna
I actually usualy reply to this opening with Nf3 allowing the queen to take the pawn but getting an edge in tempo.
  The queen remains vulnerable so you will gain a tempo (tempi?) attacking it with a developing move (ex. Re8, Nc6, d6)
JG27Pyth

Hey Justice...

As has been mentioned White's opening is not good. Indeed it is very flawed. You  handled it fine at first. 5...d5 might look fishy, but actually it was by no means a bad move. After he plays 6.exd5 you  blundered when you played 6. Nxd5? Either 6...Nd4 or 6...e4 would have been strong there.

There are tactics all over the place in this game (and by the way, there is nothing 'innocuous' about 1.e4 ... it suggests white is looking for an open game with sharp tactics). You might want to load this game into a computer chess engine and check out the things you and your opponent miss. 

You annotations are very funny and self-deprecating, but honestly you don't suck, you aren't nearly as bad as you think you are... 

I do think, if you want to improve, you should play longer higher quality games where you really bend your mind around finding the best moves available. 

Blitz chess isn't the fastest road to improvement at chess, that's certain. 


 


Mexican777
Well.....if you look at it...it isn't a wierd opening..he's is just trying to get you into Fool's Mate
grensley

 TERRORIST ATTACK!!!!  I like to use this in Live chess (really short games, so they don't have time to analyze)

 

I made a variation I like to call the Terrorist's gambit.  

 


ronank

It's a good idea to play around with a few variations of Scholar's mate. I don't play them generally but I've found that the best way to play against it is not to discourage them too much by being especially defensive.

 See how long you can get them to waste time and position while you're slowly developing. Sometimes they get gready and start taking risks.

 Remember that offering a queen swop will usually end the danger and if they're aggressive with their queens then maybe that's not such a bad thing, anyway. Also, swapping major material early while developing faster can give an advantage if you can move to endgame quickly. Castling isn't necessary nearly as often if the queens (and especially with rooks too) are off the board.


Zerrogi
grensley wrote:

 TERRORIST ATTACK!!!!  I like to use this in Live chess (really short games, so they don't have time to analyze)

 

I made a variation I like to call the Terrorist's gambit.  

 


 Lol, at the Chess Club I used to play at, we called that "the Pickle Attack"


deadpoetic

The 'terrorist attack' or  'the Pickle Attack' is a waste of time. can easily be defended against and gives you a chance to chase the opponent queen around while u get ahead of development. If someone plays it against me, i will embrance it and thank them XD.


justice_avocado
buenotc wrote:anyone worth their sauce would have known that attack and moved against it effortlessly. Yasser seirawan mentioned it in his book "winning chess-openings". Anyone who've read the whole thing like i did would have laught seeing that opening because its a waste of time. I am seriously considering stop playing players below 1200 because for some dumn reason they bring out the worst in me with their bizzare moves.

oh. well, i guess i'm not worth my sauce.

thanks to everyone else for the helpful (positive) suggestions/tips! 


deadpoetic

ya that was a bit rude buenotc. Unlike you, all of us actuly were begginers at one point and came across openings and traps that we hadn't seen before and didn't no how to handle... I think this post will help a number of ppl out and enlighten them on how to reply to this opening.

 

 


grensley

I'm still trying to develop it as a gambit.

One of the (usually) effective strategies of chess is to create a situation that is extremely chaotic which if played correctly, gives the advantage to you.  

 


GotGoose

GM Hikaru Nakamura played 2. Qh5 in a serious tournament game once, but he lost after 87 moves.

http://www.chess.com/games/view.html?id=2876633