What qualifies as a "brilliant" move?

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Pzxchess

The new game review doesn;t indicate that as "brilliant"

soumalyajoardar
TheOneHumina

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UsernameWithoutNumbers

the new brilliant moves definition is "any decent sacrifice"

https://support.chess.com/article/2965-how-are-moves-classified-what-is-a-blunder-or-brilliant-and-etc

Move 16 is brilliant, and it is a move that I am QUITE proud of...

Pzxchess
UsernameWithoutNumbers wrote:

the new brilliant moves definition is "any decent sacrifice"

https://support.chess.com/article/2965-how-are-moves-classified-what-is-a-blunder-or-brilliant-and-etc

Move 16 is brilliant, and it is a move that I am QUITE proud of...

They gave my greek gift sac and Bxh6, Bxg7 brilliant moves even though its common

Pzxchess

They also gave my queen sac for back rank checkmate (!!) when most annotated game only gives (!)

BombCraft

Three great brilliants: https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/79468419813?tab=review

They are as follows:

1. uninentionally sacrificing a knight while forking pieces AND TAKING A FREE PAWN because if queen takes its mate in 3 (i didnt see it) (20: Nxd6!!)

2. sacrificing a bishop because if rook takes its mate in 2, Rg8 is essentially forced (still M10 tho) and anything else is mate in 1 (27: Be5!!)

3. sacrificing queen. only move is to take. rook takes rook is mate.

very impressive for me, a 13yo autistic 600 elo (im 700 now)

more in depth explanation on my profile

Pzxchess
BombCraft wrote:

Three great brilliants: https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/79468419813?tab=review

They are as follows:

1. uninentionally sacrificing a knight while forking pieces AND TAKING A FREE PAWN because if queen takes its mate in 3 (i didnt see it) (20: Nxd6!!)

2. sacrificing a bishop because if rook takes its mate in 2, Rg8 is essentially forced (still M10 tho) and anything else is mate in 1 (27: Be5!!)

3. sacrificing queen. only move is to take. rook takes rook is mate.

very impressive for me, a 13yo autistic 600 elo (im 700 now)

more in depth explanation on my profile

Chess is never about age. Autistic ppl can still play good chess as long as they learn and have passion for the game

BombCraft

I know. Im just saying. Mostly its the 600 elo part that matters lol. I just like saying random information. In fact, once I unintentionally doxxed @BCMGF1150 by revealing his hometown in the comments of a geometry dash level

iamonionyes
magipi
Optimissed wrote:
Martin_Stahl wrote:
WINEWar wrote:

If a move was the only best move in a position or it was a move that stockfish had a hard time finding, it would be defined as brilliant in many cases.

Not unless material was also sacrificed.

https://support.chess.com/article/2965-how-are-moves-classified-what-is-a-blunder-or-brilliant-and-etc

He might mean "normally" rather than within the limited definition employed here. It should be pretty clear that brilliant moves here have nothing to do with brilliance. Well, occasionally they will be genuinely brilliant but it seems a shame that a sales gimmick is used in this way. It's only to create a talking point or point of interest.

Well, you are right in most of your assessment, but the definition that Winewar presented is still complete nonsense. This whole "Stockfish had a hard time finding" was invented by some forum member many years ago (based on thin air), people started repeating it, and it spread like a virus. It pops up again and again even today. It did not make any sense back then, and it certainly does not make any sense now.

Most tactical brilliancies are found by engines in a fraction of a second. Tactics is their strength.

jadkoxer
analise this
 
UsernameWithoutNumbers
Pzxchess wrote:
UsernameWithoutNumbers wrote:

the new brilliant moves definition is "any decent sacrifice"

https://support.chess.com/article/2965-how-are-moves-classified-what-is-a-blunder-or-brilliant-and-etc

Move 16 is brilliant, and it is a move that I am QUITE proud of...

They gave my greek gift sac and Bxh6, Bxg7 brilliant moves even though its common

it does not care whether it is "common" or obvious since any sacrifice apparantly is brilliant (which is stupid since imo only sacs that require more than 4 steps of calculation should be brilliant)

MiracleNahar

You may want to watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex8frqVs_Wo

MiracleNahar

Heh, yeah.

Smellsfish
Cthulhu_Fhtagn777 escribió:

This move set up a checkmate next turn (Qf7#), but still, how is this brilliant? how does the engine fail to think that moving my bishop out of the way is a good move?

Looks ridiculous but, maybe the engine had better plans sacrificing that bishop, and your simpler way to play the bishop hides a better combo steps ahead.

Sometimes our moves are equal to the engine, but with totally different intentions.

SpeedySwindler

How did the computer not see Ba6 in the beginning? I played it out of desperation hoping for a perpetual

BombCraft

bc stockfish was on depth 3

theemperor345

We can prevent that so easily

The_Blue_J

Pretty much any sacrifice that gives you a winning position counts as brilliant...