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I have realized, while playing on Chess.com that playing too aggressively can lead to loss of momentum and usually doesn't turn out well. As you can see in this game, I was the one on the defensive but in the end, I won because I stood my ground. However, I notice if I am too aggressive, I usually lose too.
 
Has anyone else experienced this phenomena?  

 


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Instead of Ke8, you should have played Ke6.  Then the position would be complex and difficult.  He should have won that game no question about it.  He just got careless in the end.


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Also, instead of Nxd5 - which is considered weak as it allows Nxf7 or d4 (Lolli Attack), consider Na5 (Main line), Bc5 (Wilkes-Barre, aka the "Terrible" Traxler), or b5 (Ulvestadt variation).  Most Fried Liver players (Ng4) won't know how to deal with these other variations.  If you learn any one of them well, you'll probably come out of most Fried Liver openings with an advantage.
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I used to play through grandmaster games and take the final position, and do my best to play through what I thought the continuation should be. I would play both sides and I was always amazed at how often the resigned side would win.

This was obviously not because the resigner resigned a won position, it was because I didn't understand how the winner's position was won. But because I knew it was won... i would attack. And because I knew the resigned position was lost, I would defend. How easy it is to turn the tables when the attacker is overly aggressive.

In the context of our games we play, often times we think our position is stronger than it really is, and we don't account for defensive (or prophylactic) resources our opponent may still have.

Often times it doesn't take brilliant defense, but simply common sense to find a way out of a tough position. In many cases, it's harder to play the attack than the defense.


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omnipaul wrote: Also, instead of Nxd5 - which is considered weak as it allows Nxf7 or d4 (Lolli Attack), consider Na5 (Main line), Bc5 (Wilkes-Barre, aka the "Terrible" Traxler), or b5 (Ulvestadt variation).  Most Fried Liver players (Ng4) won't know how to deal with these other variations.  If you learn any one of them well, you'll probably come out of most Fried Liver openings with an advantage.

 Yeah, that opening is tricky and I always feel uncomfortable with the exchange. Thanks.


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oginschile wrote:

I used to play through grandmaster games and take the final position, and do my best to play through what I thought the continuation should be. I would play both sides and I was always amazed at how often the resigned side would win.

This was obviously not because the resigner resigned a won position, it was because I didn't understand how the winner's position was won. But because I knew it was won... i would attack. And because I knew the resigned position was lost, I would defend. How easy it is to turn the tables when the attacker is overly aggressive.

In the context of our games we play, often times we think our position is stronger than it really is, and we don't account for defensive (or prophylactic) resources our opponent may still have.

Often times it doesn't take brilliant defense, but simply common sense to find a way out of a tough position. In many cases, it's harder to play the attack than the defense.


 I agree. I thought for sure I was going to lose but I just played through the positions and hoped for an opening. I am sure he was shocked once I made the move Rf1+, since it was obvious he was being reckless.


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KillaBeez wrote:

Instead of Ke8, you should have played Ke6.  Then the position would be complex and difficult.  He should have won that game no question about it.  He just got careless in the end.


 You're correct, but a win is a win! Being careless or too aggressive still doesn't make it any better.

Thanks for the advice. I see that Ke6 makes the situation a bit more manageable.


Avatar of ShinoAburame
i usually win when i get aggressive, i agree that its alot easier to make a mistake but ur opponent loses confidence in his game and goes with your flow
Avatar of Osmano
In correspondance chess it is far more important for moves to be technically sound rather than simply attacking because opponents have a greater oppurtunity to refute unsound aggresiveness. In blitz it's a lot easier to be aggressive because your opponent hasn't as much time to respond. Even unsound combinations can squeeze through.
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Wilkes-barre is aggressive and lovely, while this one is too many bad black moves and even worse play by white.

 


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normajeanyates wrote:

Wilkes-barre is aggressive and lovely, while this one is too many bad black moves and even worse play by white.

 


 You don't have to be mean. I never claimed that it was my best game but I was curious about the aggressiveness of the play.

 

I experiment online to figure out different approaches to these situations. Why are you comparing me to a GM? 

 


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Osmano wrote: In correspondance chess it is far more important for moves to be technically sound rather than simply attacking because opponents have a greater oppurtunity to refute unsound aggresiveness. In blitz it's a lot easier to be aggressive because your opponent hasn't as much time to respond. Even unsound combinations can squeeze through.

 Yeah, I usually play Blitz for fun and I come upon these attacks and sometimes they catch me off-guard because I don't play chess all too often.


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Nice recovery. It's interesting, because online I play much more agressively than OTB, especially in the turn-based games. I think it's because you wait a few days between each move sometimes, that you just end up making more bold moves instead of perhaps setting up a good defense or position. In Live and over the board I have a lot more patience and reserve than in turn-based games.
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I have experanced farfinnoogin
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