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hi wilbert!
and good attempt
(how's the holland thread going, any progress
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@Chris, lol!
@AnnaZafi, well, I don't think we will ever see Netherlands when hovering over the flag, since no staff member has picked it up. But other than that, it turned out to be a nice thread haha :D
Lol beautifull, you out think your opponent on almost every move and your opponent makes a lot of dubious moves, moving that bishop twice? But nice traps :) are these normal in this line?
Well played. Just fyi this is the fried liver attack - can be avoided by black not playing 3...Nf6 i.e. 3...Bc5 is the gucio piano (spelling mistake) or something like that. 4...d5 though is a better response to the fried liver - google it if yr interested :)
Well outthinking is very big word. It was the fried liver with 2 other traps. I had them happen to me, and I noticed how many people were trying them. I found that insulting and well... blew of a bit of steam by doing this to this non-suspecting guy. In retrospect, I should not have played this game, but... it still turned out fun to look at :D
I fell for the same trap about twenty years ago when I was attending my first tournaments. The particular event was in Lelystad IIRC. All the other kids knew it and I lost several games with black. (The games being fast I didn't find out right away what to do.) After coming home, I did some digging and analyzing and it never happened again of course.
4.... d5 5 ex and it can get pretty sharp with a sac http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_Knights_Defense,_Fried_Liver_Attack
yucca wrote:
Well played. Just fyi this is the fried liver attack - can be avoided by black not playing 3...Nf6 i.e. 3...Bc5 is the gucio piano (spelling mistake) or something like that. 4...d5 though is a better response to the fried liver - google it if yr interested :)
Sorry, my post was incorrect the original game didn't actually get to the Fried Liver Attack, having taken my own advice and actually read the wiki article - summarised along with a few other bits below
@dutchday, at my rating they try this so often in live games that I really feel sort of insulted by the attempt. You can't play chess here for 1 hour and not know that opening allready.
@yucca thanks for clearing that up. I appreciate the effort!
I have fallen for the trap you showcased on a couple of occasions, but now typically play the Sicilian Defense these days, which immediately gives Black's Queen a line to escape if such a trap is played.
I personally consider the 2 Knights Defense (the opening played by Black here) as a weak defense against White as it is then vunerable to the aggressive Knight Attack (the variation behind your trap), or for a slightly longer line, the Fried Liver Attack.
Not that I'm trying to take your game away from you mind; far from it. Against inexperienced or hyper-aggressive opponents, the Knight Attack can be a formidable trap and the aftermath is simply beautiful to see in action once sprung.
Just for the sake of completion here: the Knight Attack is also pretty flexible as it can be easily transposed to the Fried Liver Attack if rather than 4... Be7, Black plays 4... d5. Then after exchanging Pawns (at 5. exd5 Nxd5), White's Knight can capture Black's f Pawn for the Fried Liver Attack.
Well like I said then and still do... I wasn't proud of this game, I was upset that everybody at lvl 1200 would do this. Even now, 100 points higher I still see this opening often, when I play black and even when I play white. I just counter with h3 these days. Sometimes they do the same with the queen on a4. I just develop my knight as normal. More often than not, they only know the 'succesfull' lines and very often forget that I can mirror their moves... Even when I make a couple other moves in between. They have learned the line but don't even understand this simple principle of the weak king-pawn. So very often, it bites them in the ass :P
But I much more prefer the regular 4 knights game, or any other 'normal' opening against a player that wants to play chess instead of 'i know a trick'.
@wilbert Totally know what you mean - i guess that's the arguments for 960. However,you played well, so don't feel bad about it - the rules of chess being what they are opening knowledge does count for something. I know some people prefer playing 1 d4 and a London System or something to avoid anything too sharp in the opening. Or play 1...e6 or 1...c5 as black for instance, partly to avoid lines like King's Gambit, Scotch gambit etc which can be tough under short time controls after 1...e5 Btw that's all just from the perspective of a fellow patzer, so others please feel free to point out my forum blunders :)
Ok, so I had enough of the bishop + knight thingie to trap your queen and for once, tried it myself. I don't think I will do it again, but in this case it went fantastic. With no proud at all I present to you 3 common openingtraps in 1 game.
I do realize this won't work a second time on any player ;)