My Best Budapest vs. 2100+ player

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This was the best game that I have ever played on chess.com using the Budapest vs. a 2100+ rated opponent.

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that was nice.

i like how you are almost nonchalant on move 17, stating that "white chose d1" for his bishop.

 

after that, black was completely winning. almost entertaining irony.

why not 22. Rxb2 ? looks like a clear pawn.

 

but nice game. =)

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Great job CLMS-Chess! That was a good game.

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shuttlechess92 wrote:

that was nice.

i like how you are almost nonchalant on move 17, stating that "white chose d1" for his bishop.

 

after that, black was completely winning. almost entertaining irony.

why not 22. Rxb2 ? looks like a clear pawn.

 

but nice game. =)


 I think you missed the comment I made about White moving Bd1... the worst between d1 and f2 for that Bishop...which allowed for the critical invasion by Black's Rook.  

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Thanks Jenubis.

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The last move.. you said they couldn't stop mate no matter what. But why not move the bishop? It may cost you a bishop (RxBc2), but prevents mate due to the rooke (A1) defending the square being attacked by the queen (E1) (and with a second look, they lose a bishop and you a rooke. But per say, that rooke (A1) not be there, it'd be mate the same way too. Just without a rooke.)

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Yoshiro-kun wrote:

The last move.. you said they couldn't stop mate no matter what. But why not move the bishop? It may cost you a bishop (RxBc2), but prevents mate due to the rooke (A1) defending the square being attacked by the queen (E1) (and with a second look, they lose a bishop and you a rooke. But per say, that rooke (A1) not be there, it'd be mate the same way too. Just without a rooke.)


 


Bc2 fails to save white. Be2 breathes a few more moves of life into the position, but there is really no point in playing it out. This is all based on my analysis over the course of a few minutes, so I may have missed a quick mating threat even after Be2, though the line shown is crushing enough. I'd have to resign in this position, especially against a 1900 rated opponent who is going to see these lines.

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ShinobiAC wrote:
Yoshiro-kun wrote:

The last move.. you said they couldn't stop mate no matter what. But why not move the bishop? It may cost you a bishop (RxBc2), but prevents mate due to the rooke (A1) defending the square being attacked by the queen (E1) (and with a second look, they lose a bishop and you a rooke. But per say, that rooke (A1) not be there, it'd be mate the same way too. Just without a rooke.)


 


Bc2 fails to save white. Be2 breathes a few more moves of life into the position, but there is really no point in playing it out. This is all based on my analysis over the course of a few minutes, so I may have missed a quick mating threat even after Be2, though the line shown is crushing enough. I'd have to resign in this position, especially against a 1900 rated opponent who is going to see these lines.


 Nicely followed up... both of you shinobi and Yoshiro. Yoshiro... figures one of my students points out and finds a way out of mate. shinobi.... your point though is taken as your line that you played out is forced... and white indeed should resign with no pieces left and mate inevidable.

:) clms_chess

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  • Seems to me the error was 16.Rxd8+
  • I believe the position after 11... o-o is +=/=, with just a tick of an advantage for white because of the two bishops and a little bit of an advantage in space. This position is no fun at all for black to play. But - if black were an expert in knowing how to handle exactly this position (and if he could draw it against players rated 200-300 pts higher than he) - then he would have the beginnings of a Budapest-based repertoire as black against 1.d4
I just think that you don't want to spend your time learning how to defend this particular position.
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ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:

 

Seems to me the error was 16.Rxd8+ I believe the position after 11... o-o is +=/=, with just a tick of an advantage for white because of the two bishops and a little bit of an advantage in space. This position is no fun at all for black to play. But - if black were an expert in knowing how to handle exactly this position (and if he could draw it against players rated 200-300 pts higher than he) - then he would have the beginnings of a Budapest-based repertoire as black against 1.d4
I just think that you don't want to spend your time learning how to defend this particular position.

 Wow... an NM commenting on my little game... ozzie, its indeed an honor. I have been "practicing" the Budapest here on chess.com, but have... at least to this point, chickened out using it in any of the OTB tournys that Ive played in recently. In this game, I just played what my opponent gave me and fortunatly he did take at 16. Rxd8+ which allowed me to control the d- file.

Thanks for your comments

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It's certainly more challenging to play the Budapest in correspondence than OTB; at least OTB you have practical chances to out-theory your opponent.

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DandyDanD wrote:

It's certainly more challenging to play the Budapest in correspondence than OTB; at least OTB you have practical chances to out-theory your opponent.


 My statement above is now incorrect.... I have played the Budapest in an OTB Tourny... last August at the Southern in Orlando. Did not go as I had hoped... he just knew it better than me... after the game he told me its his favorite opening vs. d4. Oh well..:(

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padman wrote:

Excellent work. Very strong, principled play. I think the crushing blow Qh4 was good on move 22 as well. Not too sure about 14. Bxe5 from White and I think you're fully equal there.


 Thanks Padman.

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What's wrong with 16. Be2?  Seems to be equal there.

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TexAg06 wrote:

What's wrong with 16. Be2?  Seems to be equal there.


 I agree. The Rook exchange for White was a big mistake.

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Fezzik wrote:

This was a nicely played game! I wasn't impressed with 12.Rfd1. The normal continuation is 12.b4, but 12.Qd5 is also very interesting.

You shouldn't be surprised that strong players such as Ozzie commented on this game. You played masterfully!


 Thanks Fezzik. I was honored that he commented on the game... what I did not appreciate was his last cooment. How does he know what I do or dont study?..lol.

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Fezzik...lol... I wish that were the case..... but..
Ozzie said, "But - if black were an expert in knowing how to handle exactly this position (and if he could draw it against players rated 200-300 pts higher than he) - then he would have the beginnings of a Budapest-based repertoire as black against 1.d4".
Which is fine.... Ill except that, but then he goes on to say...
..."I just think that YOU DON'T WANT to spend your time learning how to defend THIS particular position." (Emphesis added by me.)
What the?.... I dont want?
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Fezzik my friend, amigo, pen pal, comrad, super chess player, fellow American... lol, any of his suggestions on what to move....

are very encouraging. I take those to heart... not a problem at all.

I just think he didnt need to say that last.... line...... thats all...:) 

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good game. I have nothing really to say Embarassed