nice smothered mate

IHaveTHECoronaVirus

cool smothered mate with pawn

Barefoot_Player

Hate to rain on your parade. But this is not a smothered mate. Pawns can't provide smothered mates, only knights can.

 

In this case, the White is mated by a knight and pawn. Just not a smothered one.

Riverlandjack

This is a funny queen sacrifice and a beautiful mate.But not a smothered mate.And you don't have the coronavirus. 

IHaveTHECoronaVirus

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chamo2074

It is a smothered mate

Riverlandjack
chamo2074 schreef:

It is a smothered mate

This is  not a smothered mate. 

Chamo you are writing blogs.you better study basic stuff like chessmates. 

Field g1 is not blocked by a white piece. 

shauryachirimarmh
Riverlandjack wrote:
chamo2074 schreef:

It is a smothered mate

This is  not a smothered mate. 

Chamo you are writing blogs.you better study basic stuff like chessmates. 

Field g1 is not blocked by a white piece. 

It is a partially smothered mate

Riverlandjack
shauryachirimarmh schreef:
Riverlandjack wrote:
chamo2074 schreef:

It is a smothered mate

This is  not a smothered mate. 

Chamo you are writing blogs.you better study basic stuff like chessmates. 

Field g1 is not blocked by a white piece. 

It is a partially smothered mate

It is just mating with a knight.A partially smothered mate is nonsens.

Riverlandjack

Four examples of smothered mate. 

Barefoot_Player

@shauryachirimarmh,

Would you consider this game a “partially smothered mate”?

 

Why or why not?

 

“partially smothered mate” - sounds like just another nonsensical term.

 

ajl721

@Barefoot_Player just don't say it's a smothered mate. It's a mate with the bishop.

eric0022

We call it the suffocation mate - this is a checkmate which is very similar to smothered mate except that not all squares around the king are blocked by friendly pieces. In this case, the g1 square is not occupied by a friendly piece, but attacked by the enemy pawn on f2.

IgorKravitz

People should know what a term refers to before posting. This happens here often. People speaking with much authority and yet they seem to not know the basics.

chamo2074
Riverlandjack a écrit :
chamo2074 schreef:

It is a smothered mate

This is  not a smothered mate. 

Chamo you are writing blogs.you better study basic stuff like chessmates. 

Field g1 is not blocked by a white piece. 

I know all the checkmate patterns, and to qualify something as a smothered mate, it does not have to be the exact same thing. I am sure his pattern recognition was the smothered mate. And btw I learned all the bascis, all I need to do is learn more advanced stuff, and there is nothing wrong inwriting blogs

Barefoot_Player

@ajl721,

I was not advocating that my example was a smothered mate. In fact, it is not. I was using the OP factors of (1) a queen sacrifice, (2) another white piece needed to help the knight, and (3) the Black king is not completely surrounded by his own pieces).

There is a bit of sarcasm and of me being a little sly in the refutation in the OP's bogus claim of a smothered mate.

 

chamo2074

Yes but it does not have to be the same, last time I saw GM Ben Finegold showing a puzzle and saying the solution is a smothered mate with a pawn if the king has got one square of escape which is taken away by an opponent piece, it is STILL A SMOTHERED MATE... to find such checkmates in games, they should do pattern recognition, and the pattern that OP recognized is the smothered mate.  Therefore it is fair to qualify it as a amothered mate because it does not have to be the exact same thing and that  is the beauty abaout pattern recognition in chess

chamo2074

Man which pattern do you think OP recognized then? I know that this is the main example for smothered mate:

But here is the thing, what do you think OP checkmate pattern is? If OP qualifies it as a smothered mate, then he recognized that pattern

 

Barefoot_Player

@chamo,

 

"I know all the checkmate patterns, and to qualify something as a smothered mate, it does not have to be the exact same thing. I am sure his pattern recognition was the smothered mate. And btw I learned all the bascis, all I need to do is learn more advanced stuff, and there is nothing wrong inwriting blogs"

 

I'm not sure exactly what you are saying here. But I seriously doubt you know ALL the checkmating patterns. In order to know ALL of the checkmating patterns, you would need to be a more advanced player AND have a background in studies and problems. 

 

chamo2074

I watched a series by GINGER GM called, 15 checkmate pattern you should no, well maybe I do not know all of them but like I know around 18 or such... and I would usually not miss a mate in a game, except if I am in time trouble

chamo2074

And btw the guy I am replying to is 200 rating points lower than me so you know what I mean