Queen sacrifice idk why chess engine didn't say it was brilliant

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What he played I think is the best because if his opponent doesn't take than he takes the rook with check.

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     After 37,,,,,Qc2+ the best white can do is put off mate for seven moves. Taking the black queen is obviously mate in three. The computer doesn't label things that clear and simple as "brilliant". Sacrificing the queen to get a great but unclear attack would probably get the "brilliant" accolade.

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mpaetz wrote:

     After 37,,,,,Qc2+ the best white can do is put off mate for seven moves. Taking the black queen is obviously mate in three. The computer doesn't label things that clear and simple as "brilliant". Sacrificing the queen to get a great but unclear attack would probably get the "brilliant" accolade.

I concur, but it was still really nice.

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checkmator11111 wrote:

Has anyone else got s queen sacrifice game?

 



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https://www.chess.com/games/view/85587

The Nezhmetdinov game I mentioned.

 

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alphaous wrote:
checkmator11111 wrote:

Has anyone else got a queen sacrifice game? I would love to hear one!

Game of the Century, 1956 Byrne-Fischer, 0-1 that is my favorite game that has a queen sacrifice

Try Polgugaevsky-Nezhmetdinov, 1958.

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blueemu wrote:
checkmator11111 wrote:

Has anyone else got s queen sacrifice game?

 

 



Are you still interested if the sacrifice is declined?

 



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Any good?
 

 

 

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That-User-Name-Is-Taken wrote:

Yeah, pretty nice (even though 21...f6 would be a refutation, according to my possibly inaccurate calculations).

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"Queen sacrifice idk why chess engine didn't say it was brilliant"

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Wow that's a great sacrifice! 

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Because it wasn't a Queen Sacrifice.  It was a combination.

 

Sacrifices and Combinations are NOT the same thing.  Throwing away the Queen with a forced sequence for either mate or getting the Queen back is not a queen sacrifice.  It's a combination.

 

A Queen Sacrifice is where you give up the Queen for less in return (Rook and Minor, Two Minors, Rook and Two Pawns, etc) and there is no forced conclusion.  For example, you might get a Rook and Two Pawns with a big center and are able to outplay the Queen 20 moves down the road.  That is a Queen Sacrifice.

 

Tossing the Queen as part of a forced mate in 4 (as was the case in the game) or where you give up the Queen but it follows with a Royal Fork a move or two later, getting the opposing Queen back almost immediately, are not Sacrifices.  They are Combinations.

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That-User-Name-Is-Taken wrote:

More than just 'good', that was the most awesome move I've ever seen a 900 play! And it was not just a bluff, it was completely winning!

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It will only call a move brilliant if it couldn’t find the move within a certain depth. The queen sacrifice combination here can be easily found within minimum depth because it falls under forced moves. 

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alphaous wrote:
That-User-Name-Is-Taken wrote:

More than just 'good', that was the most awesome move I've ever seen a 900 play! And it was not just a bluff, it was completely winning!

Coo . . . thank you. happy.png