Why do people actually play the Englund Gambit against 1.d4?
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Reason one: Expecting opponent to blunder
Reason 2: For a comfortable position
The above game is reason 1 expecting this
This is how people with reason 2 will play
Caramel00101 wrote:
Reason 2: For a comfortable position
This is how people with reason 2 will play
This line doesn't look good. White can just play Nf3 to develop. If Black takes the pawn then Black will lose the right to castle while still being down a pawn. How is that position comfortable?
Feb 29, 2024
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#4
Usually because they've seen a streamer do it. But honestly as a d4 player I'm not afraid of it even a little bit... and I've never studied a refutation for it, it's just never impressed me.
If you want to throw the enemy off there are alot better ways. The albin / budapest are both alot more interesting.
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cause it works if the opponent isnt good or prepared
It's called Hope Chess. White gets a winning game without the need of entering any complications.
Optimissed wrote:
Mazetoskylo wrote:
It's called Hope Chess. White gets a winning game without the need of entering any complications.
No that's wrong. Look at my game I just posted. In classical controls there probably isn't any need to prepare but in blitz you have to prepare.
This is game over already, no matter if Black takes on f3, or not. By returning the pawn white gets a crushing development advantage.
And yes, I have seen your game. White was winning with eight different ways, and you chose the ninth, which threw all white's advantage away.
Mar 1, 2024
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#14
Optimissed wrote:
This is an example. By coincidence I played a game after writing that and it was an Englund. The first nine or so moves are obvious in this line. Then he started to deviate and he wasn't a bad player. I was going down on time and basically had to choose a line at random and I lost. In classical controls I'd probably win this 95% of the time against opponents up to 1800 FIDE. It's an example of why you have to study this opening.
The reason you lost wasn't the opening it was the endgame.
Against these weird lines I usually try to get out of book more quickly than move 9. I wouldn't recommend playing the main line like this, if you equalize for skill the opponent will just always be more familiar with the positions.
Mar 1, 2024
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#15
while 4. Nc3 looks very good, leela thinks it's +0.7 which is big for leela, it's just too common for my tastes... over time engine evaluations can evaporate if you don't play precisely, and how often are you going to face this? Not very often. Here's the line I prefer... it's almost never played but the engine still likes it.Â
Optimissed wrote:
Mazetoskylo wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Mazetoskylo wrote:
It's called Hope Chess. White gets a winning game without the need of entering any complications.
No that's wrong. Look at my game I just posted. In classical controls there probably isn't any need to prepare but in blitz you have to prepare.
This is game over already, no matter if Black takes on f3, or not. By returning the pawn white gets a crushing development advantage.
OK I took a look at it and I would play ...Nxf3 followed by ...c6. I don't think it looks crushing for white.
You are wrong then.
After 5...Nxf3+ 6.gxf3 c6 7.Qd2 white will go 8.0-0-0 and 9.e2-e4, no matter if Black plays 7...d5 or not.
And if 7..Nf6 then 8.e4 first is the right move order (8.0-0-0 Nh5).
This clearly isn't a viable position.
Why do people actually play the Englund Gambit against 1.d4?
GothamChess has a video on it with 2.8 million views. Levy is the most popular chess guru and influencer of chess openings.
Optimissed for ur last game instead of 10. a3 another move you could have played is Nd5
Playing that thing is a sign that the beginner with black pieces is not on a path of improving their chess. But I fully understand why Levy put it online.
