1.e4, What Do You Prefer Sicilian, Caro-Kann, or French?

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My general replies to 1.e4 are mostly the Sicilian and the French. I prefer these openings because they are my type, I generally likes open positions where I can attack. But for people who play closed positions, I would prefer a different opening. I don't mind the Caro-Kann either, it is also very popular and commonly used.

These are just my thoughts. They're all good if you ask me, but which one is better?

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objectively Sicilian scores most wins for the black .the french and caro kann are just very solid. so its up to you to pick which one you like. you can play both french and siclian too.

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Fiveofswords wrote:

Well i dont understand. If you like open positions then I would assume you would play 2...e5


 I do like open positions. But 1..e5 is not that good against strong players. Reason I say this because they have got that opening in the back of their heads. So I personally like to mix it up. Sure French and Sicilian are closed at the first few moves but I can always open up on the position and gain the upperhand. It is good to have 5 openings in your game for both sides.

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Well Sicilian is the best choice if you want to win. It unbalances the position greatly. I used to play the Sicilian but it's way too much theory that can easily be avoided by white if he chooses to. Quite annoying in the long run.

So I switched to Caro-Kann and it's really working out well. It's super solid and you can definately play for wins. I never understood why people choose the French over the Caro-Kann though. The light squared bishop problem seems to be handled much better in the Caro.

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WorldBestGrandMaster wrote:
Fiveofswords wrote:

Well i dont understand. If you like open positions then I would assume you would play 2...e5


 I do like open positions. But 1..e5 is not that good against strong players. Reason I say this because they have got that opening in the back of their heads. So I personally like to mix it up. Sure French and Sicilian are closed at the first few moves but I can always open up on the position and gain the upperhand. It is good to have 5 openings in your game for both sides.


I am in the B class and 1...e5 has been very strong with me when I need a win for black.  If you put the work into the opening theory, then it is effective.  Just about anything can work at my level if you put the work into it, with the obvious exceptions of course.

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CARO IS VERY SOLID. VERY. Its what i use for now

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Caro,French,and Alekhine are the holy trinity for me.(I do play others too,although less frequently).

although a lot of people at chesscube play the La Bourdonnais variation against the french,it pisses me off.anywhere I can learn how to play against this variation?Yell

 

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Vive la defence Francais!

I play the Sicillian occasionally, since I play the English as white, and the positions are merely reversed. And the Alekhine looks sexy to me, but I don't have the cajones to play it.

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the funny and ironic thing about the french is that I hated playing against it as white,and now I adopted it myself cause I know a lot of e4 players hate playing against it lol.sort of grew on me.

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CerebralAssassin wrote:

Caro,French,and Alekhine are the holy trinity for me.(I do play others too,although less frequently).

although a lot of people at chesscube play the La Bourdonnais variation against the french,it pisses me off.anywhere I can learn how to play against this variation?

 

I had to look this up... so is this what 1.e4 e6 2.f4 is called?  I've faced 2.f4 a few times in club games, and it seemed like an ok system, but it was annoying :)

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NEITHER...none of the above.  But given my choice, I'd sicilian...

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orangehonda wrote:
CerebralAssassin wrote:

Caro,French,and Alekhine are the holy trinity for me.(I do play others too,although less frequently).

although a lot of people at chesscube play the La Bourdonnais variation against the french,it pisses me off.anywhere I can learn how to play against this variation?

 

I had to look this up... so is this what 1.e4 e6 2.f4 is called?  I've faced 2.f4 a few times in club games, and it seemed like an ok system, but it was annoying :)


yeah that's it.I checked it out at game explorer and it seems it doesn't have good winning percentages for white.it seems a lot employ it for psychological reasons.

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I prefer the Caro Kann.

usually people call the Caro Kann drawish.

But in the real life turnaments I play I do well.

But in 25 minutes tournaments I think the Caro Kann is to slow, I think

I will look for a new opening in 25 minutes games.

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Fiveofswords wrote:

thats such a coincidence. I happened upon this 2. f4 just earlier today, looking at some old morphy games (he lost against it) and thought it looked rather neat. I'm rather satisfied with what I play against the french (tarrasch or exchange) but I was considering looking into this f4 just out of curiosity because it seems like a unique example of aggresive pawn development.


Hmm... I didn't even think of adopting it as white... I also go for the tarrasch sometimes, but 2.f4 hmm, at least you're getting to force very early what the game will be like.  It may not have good winning percentages but I bet it doesn't lose often, so may be useful against a stronger player you know loves open games.

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Of the 3 I prefer  1 sicilian(s) ,  2 french   and  3 caro kann

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I usually go for, instead of Nec6, Nf5 and Be7 -- I also play g6 and many times h5 here.  I usually don't castle as my rook can be useful on the h file, and slow patient maneuvering gives me a good position.  (I'm comfortable with black, so probably why I didn't consider adopting 2.f4).

Oh, by the way it's true I don't play this, I'm talking about a similar position out of the scandinavian where instead of my favorite 2...Nf6 white has played 2.e5 (which interestingly enough, the scandinavian seems to transpose to many different types of games depending on what white does).

So I also have usually gotten my light square bishop outside of the pawn chain.  Just winging it, no specific move order, I've had positions like this many times in online games.

 

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Caro-Kann usually.  I am starting to learn the Sicilian and all of its flavors.  But not the French.  I am not sure I like very closed positions for black.

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I've played the Sicilian since the 1970s, but took up the French seven years ago. The French carried me into A Class, but I might need the Sicilian or Caro-Kann to get to master.

I play 1...e5 occasionally.

The Scandinavian fails to excite me, but I enjoy playing against it on account of the results. White wins.

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Can that Morphy game that 5ofswords put up be correct? Wasn't 22...Bxg3 crushing? I don't understand A) why it was played, B) why didn't morphy just take the rook. hxg3 is met by Qh5+ (winning the bishop on g5) and White is down a full rook with no attack and Black's pawns all over him. Something's not right... or I'm missing something obvious. 

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Looking at the Morphy game, it does not seem like Morphy playing...looks like someone else. Those are not typically Morphy moves and having his pieces undeveloped like that. I'm not saying it isn't Morphy, just that is looks weird if it is.

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