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lfPatriotGames wrote:
ryanovster wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:

i guess you won on time =D

time doesn't matter if you don't have sufficient material

But you do have sufficient material. If you consider all the pieces on the board. Yes, it's highly unlikely the opponent would put himself in a losing position, but it IS possible. So (improbable) sufficient material exists. So the game was decided based on time, not material.

mating with two bishops on the same colored square is impossible

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WongEthanLY wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ryanovster wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:

i guess you won on time =D

time doesn't matter if you don't have sufficient material

But you do have sufficient material. If you consider all the pieces on the board. Yes, it's highly unlikely the opponent would put himself in a losing position, but it IS possible. So (improbable) sufficient material exists. So the game was decided based on time, not material.

mating with two bishops on the same colored square is impossible

Of course it's not impossible. It's unlikely, but not impossible. Using the OPs game as an example, he had two dark colored bishops and won on time. The two dark colored bishops, plus the fact white still had a pawn was enough to declare it sufficient material to win. Unlikely, but not impossible. One possible outcome could look something like this, and black didn't even need TWO dark colored bishops, one would be enough.

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lfPatriotGames wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ryanovster wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:

i guess you won on time =D

time doesn't matter if you don't have sufficient material

But you do have sufficient material. If you consider all the pieces on the board. Yes, it's highly unlikely the opponent would put himself in a losing position, but it IS possible. So (improbable) sufficient material exists. So the game was decided based on time, not material.

mating with two bishops on the same colored square is impossible

Of course it's not impossible. It's unlikely, but not impossible. Using the OPs game as an example, he had two dark colored bishops and won on time. The two dark colored bishops, plus the fact white still had a pawn was enough to declare it sufficient material to win. Unlikely, but not impossible. One possible outcome could look something like this, and black didn't even need TWO dark colored bishops, one would be enough.

would be declared an insufficient material draw in this position

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because the pawn is promoted to a knight, it would be a draw.

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you can never find any other position where you win by solely two bishops on the same square while the opponent has a rook or queen

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WongEthanLY wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:
lfPatriotGames wrote:
ryanovster wrote:
WongEthanLY wrote:

i guess you won on time =D

time doesn't matter if you don't have sufficient material

But you do have sufficient material. If you consider all the pieces on the board. Yes, it's highly unlikely the opponent would put himself in a losing position, but it IS possible. So (improbable) sufficient material exists. So the game was decided based on time, not material.

mating with two bishops on the same colored square is impossible

Of course it's not impossible. It's unlikely, but not impossible. Using the OPs game as an example, he had two dark colored bishops and won on time. The two dark colored bishops, plus the fact white still had a pawn was enough to declare it sufficient material to win. Unlikely, but not impossible. One possible outcome could look something like this, and black didn't even need TWO dark colored bishops, one would be enough.

would be declared an insufficient material draw in this position

Except it wasn't. Which was his whole point. It was declared a win based on the opponent running out of time. Not insufficient material.

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WongEthanLY wrote:

because the pawn is promoted to a knight, it would be a draw.

No, it would likely be a draw, but as we see it's still possible to checkmate if the opponent makes enough wrong moves.

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WongEthanLY wrote:

you can never find any other position where you win by solely two bishops on the same square while the opponent has a rook or queen

Yes, but that's not what the OP was concerned about. His concern was that it SHOULD be insufficient material because checkmate can't be forced. The point is it's still possible to checkmate if the opponent makes enough wrong moves, thus, just the two dark colored bishops plus the opponent's pawn IS sufficient material. If the opponent promoted to a bishop, it's possible too.