6 masters who proved that chess kills your brain and your life - YOU ARE WARNED

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Canada1st
nimzomalaysian wrote:
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:
recklass wrote:

The OP has no understanding of statistics, or else he would never have used his examples. The simple fact is that the number of World Chess masters is far too small a population to make a valid conclusion. Also they are absolutely not a random sample. Period. So anyone who offers a conclusion from such a set of data would be laughed out of scientific community.

I'm glad you found my posts hilarious. Laughter is the best medicine.

Your response is cognitively dissonant and therefore direspectful. The criticisms of your alleged theory are valid. The fact that you mock them instead of addressing them proves you have no rational response and that your post is bogus.

Sir, please read the entire thread, yes around 6 pages of it before saying that I had no rational response.

I was referring to your disimissiveness. YWould it have hurt you to have answer his criticisms? For what it's worth, you have not proven your case. You have cherry picked 6 people and not demostrated any connection between chess and insanity.

Lol, I have not cherry picked those masters, please think before you type something. All those were world champions. Your argument would have made sense if I had picked some random 2500 rated IMs and GMs, it's not the case here.

On the contrary, my argument does make sense but you are such an inept and smug arguer that you do not address criticism. You made the categorical claim that these 6 grandmasters prove chess kills the brain, but you offer no evidence, just your own bias and simplistic rhetoric. Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall Petrosian? 

 You fail. Quit embarrassing yourself. 

 

I think I've posted enough proof in post #1. You're the one who's embarrassing yourself here, if you don't have anything intellectual to add, please leave.

But I have. I provided examples of world champions that did not go insane. You ignored them. Anyone reading this idiotic thread knows that you have NO EVIDENCE that chess kills brain cells. Cognitive denial such as you have demonstrated is a sign of intellectual inferiority and cowardice. If you do not address the fallacy of your theory you are a fraud.

nimzomalaysian

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

Canada1st
nimzomalaysian wrote:

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

I'm not defensive and I don't need your supercilious pity. I have proven your "claim" to be incompetent. Your refusal to mount a defence and engage in infantil distractions proves that you ARE intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

Put up or shut up: “Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall, Petrosian? Whad these champions no go insane?

nimzomalaysian

Calm down first, the tone of your voice tells me that you're in no state of indulging in an intellectual debate. Sorry, but I am forced to ignore you, off you go.

Canada1st
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

I'm not defensive and I don't need your supercilious pity. I have proven your "claim" to be incompetent. Your refusal to mount a defence and engage in infantil distractions proves that you ARE intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

Put up or shut up: “Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall, Petrosian? Whad these champions no go insane?

Thanks for proving my point. You have no proof. You are a fraud.

the_johnjohn
Canada1st wrote:
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

I'm not defensive and I don't need your supercilious pity. I have proven your "claim" to be incompetent. Your refusal to mount a defence and engage in infantil distractions proves that you ARE intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

Put up or shut up: “Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall, Petrosian? Whad these champions no go insane?

Thanks for proving my point. You have no proof. You are a fraud.

Couldn't agree with you more Canada1st.

xming
GnrfFrtzl wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

What about Morphy?

There are so many legends and anecdotes about him that we can't even know anything for certain. There werr rumours of games changed after his death and things like that. He is like the Ian Curtis of chess. I'm sure he was an average, well mannered person who had a thing for weird habits. I also talk to myself loudly at home while walking in circles. Doesn't make me insane.

Really?

xming
Johnkagey wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

1. Paul Morphy - Regarded as the first unofficial world champion, within 2 years of playing international chess, he went nuts. Chess rearranged his neurons and he was never the same again. He spent the last 10 years of his life wandering aimlessy talking to himself. He died a beggar.

2. Willhelm Steinitz - This was the first official world champion but he died in an insane asylum, broken and flea infested. Chess manipulated his brain and destroyed his emotional quotient. He was eventually left to the dogs.

3. Jose Capablanca - This guy never did a day's work in his life. Everything came to him easy in life. He was such a genious at chess that he did no training, he read no book. All this developed in him the biggest egos the chess world has ever seen. All he did was eat gourmet meals, flirt with the best looking ladies and play poker smoking home made cigar. Eventually he died when he was analyzing a game in a chess club in New York when an artery in his brain burst due to high blood pressure. He was wearing a $1500 suit when this happened. 

4. Alexander Alekhine - This guy spent 12 hours a day playing and analyzing chess for over 40 years. After beating Capablanca in the world championship match, he took his life for granted and became a drunkard, he used to arrive for a game stinking of alchohol. Once, he even peed in his pants during a game because he was too drunk to stumble to the toilet. He was assasinated in Portugal, his dead body was found hunched over a chess board.

 

5. Mikhail Tal - He was a genius over the board at spotting tactical combinations, his games are shocking. But, he was also a chain smoker and a drug addict, he executed masterpieces over the board under the influence of narcotics, he saw his own things on the board. He died prematurely at the age of 50, he looked like an 80 year old man. He died of kidney failure due to his lifetime indulgence in vodka, drugs and ciggarates.

6. Bobby Fisher - This person needs no introduction, he was arguably the greatest player of his time. But for the last 30 years of his life, he was the chess world's mad uncle, an embarrassment that cannot be expressed in words. He eventually died of kidney failure, he refused all his medicines.

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So, a question to all those who want to take chess seriously -

Do you really think its worth it to sacrifice your life, your happiness, the well-being of your loved ones just to achieve a superfluous title like a GM? Go to college, get a degree, get a job, live your life.

you can find this sort of thing in "any" walk of life. not just chess!this is the human condition all of us face without Jesus.

Prove it.

xming
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

I'm not defensive and I don't need your supercilious pity. I have proven your "claim" to be incompetent. Your refusal to mount a defence and engage in infantil distractions proves that you ARE intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

Put up or shut up: “Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall, Petrosian? Whad these champions no go insane?

Ladies!  Please!

RoobieRoo

you can find this sort of thing in "any" walk of life. not just chess!this is the human condition all of us face without Jesus

Yes indeed Fischer was a devout Christian and even after he found out that his church was corrupt he enjoyed reading scripture.

AbhiTheGr8

"Nimzomalaysian wrote

5. Mikhail Tal - He was a genius over the board at spotting tactical combinations, his games are shocking. But, he was also a chain smoker and a drug addict, he executed masterpieces over the board under the influence of narcotics, he saw his own things on the board. He died prematurely at the age of 50, he looked like an 80 year old man. He died of kidney failure due to his lifetime indulgence in vodka, drugs and ciggarates.

6. Bobby Fisher - This person needs no introduction, he was arguably the greatest player of his time. But for the last 30 years of his life, he was the chess world's mad uncle, an embarrassment that cannot be expressed in words. He eventually died of kidney failure, he refused all his medicines.

4. Alexander Alekhine - This guy spent 12 hours a day playing and analyzing chess for over 40 years. After beating Capablanca in the world championship match, he took his life for granted and became a drunkard, he used to arrive for a game stinking of alchohol. Once, he even peed in his pants during a game because he was too drunk to stumble to the toilet. He was assasinated in Portugal, his dead body was found hunched over a chess board."

Note that in every paragraph's end,it is saying that how they died.But In the last lines in the paragraph no.4,5 and 6, it is written they died not due to brain illness but other reasons.

AbhiTheGr8
Bilbo21 wrote:

Luckily I am safe. I don't have a life or a brain.

Are you alien?

AbhiTheGr8
Canada1st wrote:
nimzomalaysian wrote:

Wow sorry! I must have touched a raw nerve there! Why are you so defensive?. You just called me intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

I've only tolerated you because I feel sorry for you.

I'm not defensive and I don't need your supercilious pity. I have proven your "claim" to be incompetent. Your refusal to mount a defence and engage in infantil distractions proves that you ARE intellectually inferior, a coward, and a fraud.

Put up or shut up: “Where's your proof? How about Carlsen, Spassky, Korchnoi, Evans, Marshall, Petrosian? Whad these champions no go insane?

I THINK THE GUY WHO POSTED THIS THREAD SHOULD BE DEFENSIVE.

obed513

The people listed had one thing in common, chess came natural to them the way breathing does to a human. What about the people that it doesn't come natural to but yet spend endless hours analyzing and reading books in order to be as good as them? Could chess have the same effect on them or will they eventually grow tired of trying to be as good? I know that I will never be a GM or anything close to it but I spend quite a bit of time playing or reading about chess. I love the calm that it brings me after a very hectic day.

soulman2001
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Artemka3Shianchik11

Like Tal , Fisher , Alekhine and Morphy .

P_S_S_23

most of those cases were related to outside influences.

Brb2023bruhh

too much of make-beleive *AHEM!*

Pashak1989

Alekhine was not assasinated. 

ThatChapThere
tob1a5 wrote:

I'm half joking/exaggerating because I'm assuming this blog post is also somewhat of a provocative joke :) 

What a wonderful euphemism for troll.