A sensation upset draw at the Marshall Chess Club!!! (800 player vs 2200 player)

chessperson2222222

I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw this game on Mr. West's blog. 

HorsesGalore

Yes, this is a major upset Draw.   

In this tournament, Mr West drew this low Rated player, also Drew an 1800, Drew a 1900  and lost to an Expert.   He had zero wins.    http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?201905237832-10044812

If you check out his USCF tournament results, you will see there are many tournaments where Jim West's Rating begins and ends at 2200  out of respect for his winning the Life Master Title in 1996.   Otherwise his Rating would plunge.

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?10044812

 

chessperson2222222
HorsesGalore wrote:

Yes, this is a major upset Draw.   

In this tournament, Mr West drew this low Rated player, also Drew an 1800, Drew a 1900  and lost to an Expert.   He had zero wins.    http://www.uschess.org/msa/XtblMain.php?201905237832-10044812

If you check out his USCF tournament results, you will see there are many tournaments where Jim West's Rating begins and ends at 2200  out of respect for his winning the Life Master Title in 1996.   Otherwise his Rating would plunge.

http://www.uschess.org/msa/MbrDtlTnmtHst.php?10044812

 

I don't think his rating would plunge. Mr. West is a very talented player. He sometimes has off days, like this one. He has beaten a few grandmasters in recent years and has drawn some strong NMs and IMs also. 

HorsesGalore

I do respect Jim West's chess knowledge and achievements.

when he plays current tournaments at time limits that would never have been Rated 25+ years ago (too quick), it's a big uphill battle ( for him and anyone of his generation ).    I have no idea how low his Rating would go.    However if you check his tournament results ( link provided above ), you will see  for the majority of tournaments, he can not maintain a 2200 Rating.    It is only because he has a 2200 floor that his Rating can never dip below 2200.    His "quick USCF Rating" is listed as 2000 -- probably also a floor.

As far as having a "bad day", unfortunately Jim West has had many in recent years, but usually at tournaments with very fast time limits ( that would not have been Rated 25+ years ago).     

Personally I don't consider strong chess expertise at fast time limits.    I am more respectful of Ratings earned at an average time of 2 minutes per move.

ghost_of_pushwood

That's a thought...except a lot of the geniuses are very very good at blitz too. wink.png

Drunken_Shrimp
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

That's a thought...except a lot of the geniuses are very very good at blitz too.

That's true

scrabblechecs

Just... wow.

Drunken_Shrimp
scrabblechecs wrote:

Just... wow.

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ghost_of_pushwood

Bear in mind that he is upside down (and no longer underwater).

Drunken_Shrimp
ghost_of_pushwood wrote:

Bear in mind that he is upside down (and no longer underwater).

I have to remember that...