Accept draw vs threefold repetition

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Streptomicin

I'm playing CC game, where I am in better position but I got little bored so I don't mind if game is draw. I offered draw few times, but my opponent did not accept it. So later in game my opponent got my king in the corner, he has only his queen on that side of the board with no way of bringing any other pieces to help (we both have 2 rooks and queen, I am up 1 pawn) and I have rook 2 pawns and my King. And he can't do anything, he can just check me. So he does. He has 3 squares where his Queen can check me, I have 3 squares to move my King. So he check I move, he check I move, he check I move. I see what he is doing, so I offer a draw, he do not accept. And he check I move he check I move he check I move. I offer draw 7 times, my opponent do not accept.

And after 10 days and 8 moves I can finally claim draw by threefold repetition.

There is no point to this story. I just want to hear from regulars here how that is his right, that he can play whatever he want, that game is not over and so on.

PardalsemCasa

Maybe he just haven't saw draw offer and kept moving...

msoewulff

hmm, not sure what I think here... I would point out that it is not uncommon in GM games for a draw by repetition (but not in the manner Streptomicin is talking about). His opponent in his example is clearly a moron. I do not, however, think a simple threefold repition is poor manners (simple as in it actually takes only three moves). 

Also, I think it would be a little weird to say "I think your gonna repeat moves, draw?".

A player could initially decide to start repeating moves and change his mind; i remember this happening in Corus 2010 when Anand beat Kramnik. Anand began to repeat moves, but then saw a way to play for a win. Kramnik actually thought for a minute that a position had been repeated three times, but this was not the case. http://www.chess.com/news/anand-beats-kramnik-at-corus-2886

Another funny example where an agreed draw would not have been accepted happened recently and was posted on chess.com. In Natalia Pogonina's article she actually accidentally drew a game by repitition. http://www.chess.com/article/view/good-and-bad-pieces

PardalsemCasa

In some high level tournaments it's forbidden to have a draw by agreement...

AlCzervik
RoseQueen1985 wrote:

You have to accept the fact that people are stupid. Plain and simple.

Some people have a thing against refusing "draw offers" and play on in hopeless postions, or they demand prove that the game is drawn. In this case since he had 3 squares to spite check you from, it was somewhat tideous to claim the draw, as he probably checked you twice from each square, and finally, had to check you a third time. It's really stupid and has no point.

It's like the people that just fling their pieces at you when they are losing. They can simply just hit the resign button. Nope, all they do is just sac their pieces against your king, you take all the material, and then mate. Even worst is when after they do all that, they resign one move before mate.

The best way to deal with this is to avoid or ignore the player again. I personally never give rematches or play against anyone that doesn't resign hopeless positions or that just checks me back and forth till I can claim 3 move rep. It's honestly an insult and a complete lack of manners and etiquette.


 I agree with everything RoseQueen wrote, and the last paragraph is your solution. In my short time here, I have a "list" of those not to play for this and other obvious reasons.

I play in a lot of 1 day/move tournaments here. Recently, when going from game to game, both my opponent and I had made the same move 3 consecutive times! Neither of us knew until we saw the "claim draw". I saw it first and apologized by explaining myself in the chat-that I was moving quickly in all available games and did not notice the repetition. We both had a laugh (he was doing the same thing!) and moved on. This was an honest mistake. Your example is not. I would say it's time for you to start your own list.

Streptomicin

If my opponent was Kramnik or Anand I would not question anything he did.

But to refuse to draw, only to force draw by repetition 10 moves later??

This is the position, I'm sure he could see the win.