Accuracy crushes tactical ability

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penandpaper0089 wrote:

Oh? Then perhaps you'd like to solve this puzzle. Find a win for Black but don't use any tactics.

If you are going to define tactics as "making a move", then sure.

Not everybody uses such a broad definition of the term, though. In fact, you might be alone in that point of view.

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urk wrote:
Mate in one qualifies as a tactic?

How do you mate White without attacking? It's super obvious but you can't do anything but just be theoretically better if you never attack.

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Daybreak57 wrote:

The person who wins, is the person who doesn't make a mistake.

More realistically, the person who wins is the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.

(The loser is the dude who made the LAST mistake).

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blueemu escribió:
Daybreak57 wrote:

The person who wins, is the person who doesn't make a mistake.

More realistically, the person who wins is the player who makes the next-to-last mistake.

(The loser is the dude who made the LAST mistake).

Are you Tartakower or something. Dont betray your nation and quote Eric Hansen or something!

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Wow. Im using "or something" too much. Im starting to get worried or something like that.

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penandpaper0089 wrote:
urk wrote:
Mate in one qualifies as a tactic?

How do you mate White without attacking? It's super obvious but you can't do anything but just be theoretically better if you never attack.

"Attacking" and "tactics" are only tangentially related. Tactics are every bit as important in defense... perhaps even more so.

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Sure, you need tactics to be able to defend yourself against your opponent's nasty intentions. But there's a lot more to the game.
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penandpaper0089 wrote:
urk wrote:
Mate in one qualifies as a tactic?

How do you mate White without attacking?

If you can't answer that yourself you lack imagination.

Unless you count a boring technical mate like two rooks vs a king an "attack."

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Look at the games of Karpov if you don't believe me.
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Karpov had good tactical games. I remember playing with him on the 80s. HE DESTROYED ME LIKE TAL DID IN THE 70S

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Karpov was a sissy, he should have mated Kasparov so much more times in their Najdorf games.

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Im troubled!

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Telestu wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
urk wrote:
Mate in one qualifies as a tactic?

How do you mate White without attacking?

If you can't answer that yourself you lack imagination.

Unless you count a boring technical mate like two rooks vs a king an "attack."

You have to actually attack the king to get him to move don't you? Otherwise he just runs in circles in the middle. Maybe it's semantics but it's the truth.

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penandpaper0089 wrote:
Telestu wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:
urk wrote:
Mate in one qualifies as a tactic?

How do you mate White without attacking?

If you can't answer that yourself you lack imagination.

Unless you count a boring technical mate like two rooks vs a king an "attack."

You have to actually attack the king to get him to move don't you? Otherwise he just runs in circles in the middle. Maybe it's semantics but it's the truth.

Sure, but you can defend all game and win material and eventually the game. People usually resign when they're hopelessly behind. Even so, the term "mating attack" is used to talk about when there are defends tongue.png Something like 2 rooks vs a king is just a technical mate you teach to beginners.

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All men are equal before fish

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blueemu wrote:

"Tactics flow from a superior position" - by everybody's favorite lunatic: Bobby Fischer

 

That's a paraphrase, not a quote. Fischer wrote, "tactics flow from a positionally superior game" My 60 Memorable Games (1969), 16.

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Diakonia wrote:
penandpaper0089 wrote:

Chess may not be 99% tactics but if tactics weren't such a big deal Tal wouldn't be half as famous. At the end of the day when complications hit the board you won't win because you had a pretty knight on d5. You win because that knight on d5 led to tactics.

WRONG...Its bad advice like this, people should not listen to.

How is this bad advice?

"tactics flow from a positionally superior game" -Bobby Fischer

A complicated line to win a piece is a tacic. Delivering a simple checkmate in KQ vs. K is also a tactic. Even the most positional slow maneuvering games are usually finished with a game ending tactic.

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Botvinnik was incredibly proficient at tactical play.
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No he wasnt. He was just a grumpy old corrupt man that hacked Bronstein.

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BronsteinPawn wrote:

No he wasnt. He was just a grumpy old corrupt man that hacked Bronstein.