Accused of Cheating

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konstantcheckov
RedGirlZ wrote:

Why do u care that much to make a post on it. At the end of the day it's an accusation, nothing that u can report urself, which u should know considering u been here since 2012. If ur innocent then u wouldn't need to make this post. 

 

Making this post just gives someone the chance to argue ur guilty. 

I would not have found these articles had I not created this forum thread.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-to-report-a-cheater-1
It is now clear that others are getting the same treatment. It is a form of abuse because accused players run the risk of being banned. The topic is relevant to others. Need I go on?

Fabianr

First of all, If u find the need to cheat, you have NO self RESPECT! You truly are living a LIE.

Your world is dark and you probably hate yourself anyways. So, your way to fit in is simply by cheating wish is NOT good at all, beacause ultimately you will be discovered and made to shame! So, don't cheat wait for your turn to shine and really take the time out to achieve ur best by simply practicing and getting better at whatever sport you choose to do in life.

konstantcheckov
autobunny wrote:

. . . lost her last 3 games and accused all 3 players! That's some consistency. 

Last four games lost at present: all winning opponents have been accused of cheating on their public profile.

konstantcheckov
RedGirlZ wrote:
konstantcheckov wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:

Why do u care that much to make a post on it. At the end of the day it's an accusation, nothing that u can report urself, which u should know considering u been here since 2012. If ur innocent then u wouldn't need to make this post. 

 

Making this post just gives someone the chance to argue ur guilty. 

I would not have found these articles had I not created this forum thread.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-to-report-a-cheater-1
It is now clear that others are getting the same treatment. It is a form of abuse because accused players run the risk of being banned. The topic is relevant to others. Need I go on?

accused cheaters run the risk of being banned if they actually cheated. 

And there is a system to report abuse. It should not be circumvented by allowing one's own frustrations to prompt you to attack others: attempting to shame people in public with accusations for which you have no proof. It's just not cricket!

WSama

This is the sad reality of online gaming. In fact, what the OP experienced is the result of a phobia of sorts. I know because at a certain point I personally had to take a short break from chess to remind myself that it's okay; cheating or no cheating, it's okay, just enjoy the game. We're chess players, we're supposed to speculate, we're skeptics of our opponents! He must be cheating! She's probably cheating!

It can't be helped. The world of sports has drilled these thoughts into our way of thought; so and so is on steroids, Bjornsen had a listening device taped to his palm, somebody threw the game, etc. 

It never stops. So before you even unwrap your board game of choice, your opponent is a cheat unless of course you win or you can confirm things personally... what's that in your other hand? Let me see that!

konstantcheckov
RedGirlZ wrote:
konstantcheckov wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:
konstantcheckov wrote:
RedGirlZ wrote:

Why do u care that much to make a post on it. At the end of the day it's an accusation, nothing that u can report urself, which u should know considering u been here since 2012. If ur innocent then u wouldn't need to make this post. 

 

Making this post just gives someone the chance to argue ur guilty. 

I would not have found these articles had I not created this forum thread.
https://www.chess.com/article/view/chess-com-fair-play-and-cheat-detection
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/how-to-report-a-cheater-1
It is now clear that others are getting the same treatment. It is a form of abuse because accused players run the risk of being banned. The topic is relevant to others. Need I go on?

accused cheaters run the risk of being banned if they actually cheated. 

And there is a system to report abuse. It should not be circumvented by allowing one's own frustrations to prompt you to attack others: attempting to shame people in public with accusations for which you have no proof. It's just not cricket!

Did he make a forum on u? if he didn't then that argument doesn't work.

Their comments were visible before I was advised to delete them and people went to my profile and read them. I suspect that the second accuser had read the earlier accusation and that prompted their rude behaviour towards me. No, I think this topic is relevant, although it would have been better if the individuals concerned had not been named - that was not my intention. I did send in a report about the second accuser because they were rather rude.

Laskersnephew

" Deleting stuff people say about you online can also raise suspicion (it's bad etiquette)."

Absolutely wrong! Deleting lies is always and everywhere a good thing. 

IMKeto
Laskersnephew wrote:

" Deleting stuff people say about you online can also raise suspicion (it's bad etiquette)."

Absolutely wrong! Deleting lies is always and everywhere a good thing. 

Except when you're online!

Just like saying "good game" and "good luck" in OTB play is done, and considered good sportsmanship.  But online, its considered "rude" and "distracting"

So take online comments for what they are worth....not much.

AussieMatey

And talking about cricket - that Joe Root catch looked a bit suspect. happy.png

konstantcheckov
AussieRookie wrote:

And talking about cricket - that Joe Root catch looked a bit suspect.

Probably has a bionic arm. wink.png

batgirl

If anyone accuses me of anything, it's almost always about being a lousy player, but occasionally someone has indeed called me a cheater.  My first reaction always is a bit a anger at being impugned. But after a second or two, I re-center myself.  I never see it as a compliment because the person accusing is never really implying I played well but is simply reacting to his own self-inflicted misfortune.  99% of the time the accusation occurs after the opponent either blundered or made a series of weak moves that compromised his entire game.  

I don't see the accusation as abuse. It's just a way, admittedly a poor one, of either saving face or of justifying a loss.  The game, or body of games, of anyone who doesn't cheat will hold up under scrutiny, so objectively there's absolutely nothing to be concerned about.

To me at least, it comes down to whether I'm going to let some transient stranger affect my day or even briefly my attitude.  Since I'm not willing to allow that, I forget about the sad accusation 10 seconds after reading it.  I certainly don't acknowledge it.  

That said, if a person is accusing everyone he/she loses against a cheater by leaving notes on their profile pages, that person can be made to stop (or stop communicating altogether if necessary). 

But as far a repercussions from accusations : there are none. Zero. 

So delete and enjoy life.

jk_2017

You should step away from the computer without touching anything and report it to your mom immediately.

konstantcheckov

@batgirl Nice bit of batgirl wisdom there. happy.png It doesn't really bother me if someone uses an engine against me because all I have to lose are a few elo points. Those who cheat lose self-respect.

IMKeto
konstantcheckov wrote:

@batgirl Nice bit of batgirl wisdom. It doesn't really bother me if someone uses an engine against me because all I have to lose are a few elo points. Those who cheat lose self-respect.

If someone is cheating, they don't have any self-respect.

konstantcheckov
EnergizeMrSpock wrote:

 ... human cheater + comp cheater cancels out the cheating,

Erm - this is not simply a question of multiplication: False And False = False

konstantcheckov

And for you puzzlers out there:
Whose move is it on my Avatar - noughts or crosses?
What is the significance of the colours?

AussieMatey

X begins so it is X to move.

konstantcheckov

You need to answer both questions.

AussieMatey

Don't know the second answer.

konstantcheckov

Forget who goes first (convention only applies to the first game). There are three possible outcomes and seven available squares. Two green spaces are already occupied. Should be easy for you.