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idilis
GraveMurky wrote:

You know what you are, and you probably reported me already.   I think chess.com dug a grave for all of online gaming imo.  Maybe the chessboxing clown show will take off and chess players can actually have careers lol. 

i thought the question what whether YOU knew who i was, as you repeated claimed in so many different desperate ways.

so why did you come back if you were expecting to be banned or reported or blood-sacrificed or whatever it is you feel will be done to you here?

llama36

Neither of our (recent) past accounts were banned (@idilis and llama). We closed them because we wanted to. You on the other hand... heh.

idilis
GraveMurky wrote:

Because many people are reading these besides cheating alts like you whether you believe that or not.    The fact only people like you are voicing your opinions here.  Is a big reason why this palce is seen as a cesspool even by the players themselves.  Figured I'd vent and speak on it for a few days.  Its therapeutic.   
I also didn't forget your racist comments you had on your profile page.  I see now you amended it.  ANd I bet that was because of me posting on these forums about you.  See how that works?  Go ahead and deny it.  lol

so now i cheat as well?

the mods took down my profile info, not me.  no secret there.  but you were not just speaking on the forums - you reported it.  little wonder you're so paranoid about being reported.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/so-im-a-trumpist-70376181

so again, what's my other account and where have i cheated?

glad this site is giving you the therapy you need.

idilis

btw, there is now this :-)

https://support.chess.com/article/1328-what-kind-of-avatars-are-allowed

posted 1 month after @alczervik's topic on my avatar

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/off-topic/idilis-avatar-70455843

idilis
GraveMurky wrote:

more confirmation.  YOu don't realize When I say cheating.  That includes making alt accounts.  That is against TOS,  and i consider it CHEATING. anything that undermines the rating system.  is CHEATING.    you fkn cheater.

confirmation of my current account?  where's the alt? where's the cheating?

llama36
GraveMurky wrote:

making alt accounts.  That is against TOS

Not anymore, they allow people to have 2 if they request it... so you can't ride that horse quite as hard anymore.

llama36
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:

making alt accounts.  That is against TOS

Not anymore, they allow people to have 2 if they request it... so you can't ride that horse quite as hard anymore.

  They only allow titled players a "training" account.  If they are really allowing everyone to make 2 accounts,  that is ludicrous.   RIP online gaming.

Yeah, they let anyone do it now, but you have to ask, I think they still close accounts if you just randomly make a bunch.

idilis
GraveMurky wrote:

They only allow titled players a "training" account.  If they are really allowing everyone to make 2 accounts,  that is ludicrous.   RIP online gaming.  I can't see any excuse for having one besides prepping for a tournament.    But then again,   that sure does inflate the account numbers for the advertisers and investors.    So I guess shouldn't be shocked if true.

https://support.chess.com/article/596-can-i-have-multiple-accounts

you have no idea as usual.

idilis
GraveMurky wrote:
idilis wrote:

confirmation of my current account?  where's the alt? where's the cheating?

lol   You just admitted before the world.  You see nothing wrong with alt accounts and don't even consider it cheating. Shame on you.    *snip*

point to me where?   are you just living in your own delusional bubble?

idilis
GraveMurky wrote: I'm going to give them benefit of the doubt and assume people asking for two accounts have valid reasons other then just wanting two accounts to "experiment" with the rating system  lmao...

your benefit of doubt definitely is greatly treasured here.  as are your opinions.

llama36
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:

making alt accounts.  That is against TOS

Not anymore, they allow people to have 2 if they request it... so you can't ride that horse quite as hard anymore.

  They only allow titled players a "training" account.  If they are really allowing everyone to make 2 accounts,  that is ludicrous.   RIP online gaming.

Yeah, they let anyone do it now, but you have to ask, I think they still close accounts if you just randomly make a bunch.


I'm going to give them benefit of the doubt and assume people asking for two accounts have valid reasons other then just wanting two accounts to "experiment" with the rating system  lmao...

Yeah, you still don't remember correctly. I wrote a program that simulated new players joining an established rating ecosystem because I wanted to understand how the chess boom may or may not affect the average rating or cause rating inflation/deflation... maybe you don't understand that this was a small program that ran on my computer and had nothing to do with any website, including chess.com.

llama36
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:
llama36 wrote:
GraveMurky wrote:

making alt accounts.  That is against TOS

Not anymore, they allow people to have 2 if they request it... so you can't ride that horse quite as hard anymore.

  They only allow titled players a "training" account.  If they are really allowing everyone to make 2 accounts,  that is ludicrous.   RIP online gaming.

Yeah, they let anyone do it now, but you have to ask, I think they still close accounts if you just randomly make a bunch.


I'm going to give them benefit of the doubt and assume people asking for two accounts have valid reasons other then just wanting two accounts to "experiment" with the rating system  lmao...

Yeah, you still don't remember correctly. I wrote a program that simulated new players joining an established rating ecosystem because I wanted to understand how the chess boom may or may not affect the average rating or cause rating inflation/deflation... maybe you don't understand that this was a small program that ran on my computer and had nothing to do with any website, including chess.com.



This is crazy,  here you are openly admitting it again.   And ya I didn't remember you actually wrote a bot account.  thats even worse bud.   But just like idiis.  You just openly talk about it like there is nothign wrong with that.   that makes me sick to my stomach.

It's not as much fun when the trolling is obvious. I think it would have been better to repeat something about how I open lots of accounts every year and I do this to break the rules because I'm such a nasty cheater.

idilis
llama36 wrote:

It's not as much fun when the trolling is obvious. *snip*

the sad part is, i don't think he's trolling.  just needs more therapy.

llama36

By the way, the interesting thing was the average can go up, down, or stay the same, and inflation can happen, not happen, or there can be deflation.

The math does its best to preserve a point to skill ratio, in other words the people who come up with rating systems do their best to minimize any inflation / deflation effect. This also means the average rating changes in just the way you might expect i.e. if the new players are better than the current average, then the average goes up, if they're worse then the average goes down.

llama36
idilis wrote:
llama36 wrote:

It's not as much fun when the trolling is obvious. *snip*

the sad part is, i don't think he's trolling.  just needs more therapy.

Or smoke some grass and do some yoga and chill out... or maybe... "coolout" tongue.png

bigbadsquid
Yankeesfan15 wrote:
I’ve been playing for about 8 months and take one hour lessons every week. I study tactics, do puzzles, play bots and play live. My rating peaked at about 450 but I’m down to about 375 and am on a really bad losing streak. With all the time and effort I’d think I’d be getting better but it seems just the opposite.

Can anyone give me some tips or advice? I don’t plan to quit anytime soon and I know this is just for fun. I’ll never be or want to be a grandmaster but a little improvement and a few wins would be nice.

 

An underrated comment is the one on candidate moves. When I looked to the latest (at the time of writing) game, https://www.chess.com/game/live/64258344225?username=yankeesfan15,  on move 6 you move a pawn to a square where it is attacked twice but defended only once. This should be checked when considering the move.

Having established that there are no direct threats or forcing moves, at this point one should look to continue development. Pawn to b6 is the first candidate move that comes to mind to me (to get the bishop out). The other three that I'd consider are Be7 (in order to castle) and Nc6 (to attack d4) and Nf5 (also to attack d4 and prepare pawn to d5). But wait a minute, Nc6 can be followed by pawn to d5. Black then can't take on d5 because of... a pin! There you have your tactical pattern. And Nf5 violates the principle of moving the knight twice, but might still be ok. White will, however, be able to defend the pawn with Nf3 'with tempo', because it's a move they likely want to do anyway. Having checked that, I'd just go for pawn to b6 or Be7 (in your case I'd recommend Be7 in order to castle quickly).

All this analysis can be done without an engine, and even during the game. Avoiding clear mistakes like hanging pieces is obviously a first step in eliminating bad candidate moves, but the above 'mini analysis' shows that positional considerations and developing tactical pattern recognition can also be helpful, even for beginners.

An unpopular opinion is that watching master games, even if superficially (for example, from agadmator's YouTube channel), can be useful. It can help develop some kind of pattern recognition and give an idea of what good play looks like.

Wurstzug
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ThePawnShoplifter

Maybe watch a youtube video, compete in tournaments...

I also recommend playing rapid more than blitz/bullet because you don't struggle in time.

Watch for threats, what opponent want to do or plan, play solidly and don't play strange moves when your opponent does.

You can use arrows and shades to compute/calculate/plan on the board during a play. 

For Laptop/PC/Desktop, usually is right click to shade and right click on the tile and hold down until to another tile.

The videos by Chess Talk and Chess Vibes might help.

 

1g1yy
GraveMurky wrote:

Like alot of people who refuse to play classical. (  30mins)   I'm too afraid to play daily because I just assume everyone is cheating.  

It hasn't stopped me from playing yet but it is discouraging. I don't share your definition of cheating. I just think smurfing is lame and pathetic, but again I don't let it bother me too much. All said and done the player is simply better than I am, but I wouldn't go so far as to say cheating. They might be but if so it's relatively undetectable. I recently lost two games to a person whose account started in Late July and they are 36/2/2 in daily and 6/0/0 in daily 360. It's a free account as you might expect. And they're accuracy is just good enough to win all the time. I see that their first game was a loss to an 1100 player back in Late July so they clearly have worked on their game a lot since then.

pcwildman

I would also suggest that you start playing daily games of 2 or 3 days. It's kind of hard to learn how to play the game in Rapid. I'm still working on getting a higher rating and I don't even play rapid games, yet.